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Kaimetsu 07-29-2002 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by Aliendude



They can use the word anthrax, but I doubt they would want to if they knew what most Americans think of it. If this anthrax was mentioned in a review or something, I don't think the parents are going to want to buy the kids an account with their credit card. The could take the anthrax the wrong way.

Grim Squeaker:

Actually Europeans could easily be just as offended at the usage of the word Anthrax, simply because at the time that the sending of mail packages containing miscallaneous white powder was quite usual it also happened a lot in Europe.
However, us Europeans really couldn't care less, and are not inclined to comparing reality with games.

VampiricTutorNewHD 07-29-2002 07:18 PM

I could find a number of things wrong with 2k2 to be "offended" by. How about those multicoloured mushrooms?

Aliendude 07-29-2002 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by VampiricTutorNewHD
I could find a number of things wrong with 2k2 to be "offended" by. How about those multicoloured mushrooms?
...That's differant :o
Not much people at all are offended by mushrooms.

Mman 07-29-2002 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by Thak2
Anthrax has been around for hundreds of years.

It's always been deadly, but only recently has it been made worse, and more toxic.

So, Anthrax could exist in a medieval setting.

Yes it has been around for a while, but, until the contaminated envelopes went out it was hard for one to get anthrax. Either way you put it, it certainly wasn't appropriate to put in the game.

screen_name 07-29-2002 08:36 PM

ALL I GOTS TO SAY IS I BETTER NOTS CATCH IT OR I WILL BE ON THE PHONE WITH MY LAWYER MAN AND SUEING SOME *****ES UP IN THIS HOUSE!!!!

draygin 07-29-2002 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by Max-imus


You are twisting the point, and doing it poorly. The original point was why the hell is Anthrax even in a game that kids play? I am sure that not only Americans think that this is wrong to have in a game that kids play, it is completely ignorant of whoever put it there, and even more ignorant on your part to make fun of Americans because of something that does not belong in a kid's game and that offends many people, non-Americans included. Nothing is wrong with using them in context, but if anything of that matter is used IN A GAME THAT KIDS PLAY, it is wrong. If the staff on Graal2002 had any COMMON SENSE, they would have just called it a plague or something, not anthrax.

Yes a disease doesnt belong in a game directed towards kids as you claim. But yet Swords, Bows and other weapons is just fine and dandy. If they take out Anthrax they should take out every single thing that is violent. What does that leave us with? Metris. :p

On another note I'm American and I'm not offended. It's just a bunch of idiot babies who want something to cry about. If not this then they would find some thing else to cry about. Such as what SS and SD stand for.:rolleyes:

jeff335 07-29-2002 09:53 PM

First off, I am as American as the day is long and a big fan of the government. I am not a terrorist, an anarchist, or a chaotic. Remember that as you read this.

Second off, ANTHRAX IS A NATURALLY-OCCURING COW DISEASE WHICH CAN SPREAD TO HUMANS. A cow disease. Now will you say that Graal can't have cows because cows imply the possibility of anthrax? Anthrax fits the setting, so why *****?

Third off, Would you really feel better if the skull said "That is the bubonic plague"? The Plague has killed more people than anthrax.

Fourth off, it's been almost a year since the WTC/Pentagon attacks and the anthrax scare. No more than perhaps 1/1000 of people should still flip out every time they read the word "anthrax."

-Jeff :rolleyes:

Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue 07-29-2002 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Grim Squeaker:

You forgot "Skyscraper", "New York", "Crash", "Mail", "US" and "United States".
;P


And "Trade" ;)

brock128 07-29-2002 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by Max-imus

if it is geared towards children that are at least 12 years of age, it wouldn't have extreme stuff that would be in a game with a mature rating. Diablo 2 has a mature rating, graal is geared towards children

First off, Graal is an MMORPG. It is geared to people of all ages.

I'm 13. I play D2. Big fuggin deal.

I have a Crystal Sword of Anthrax. +100 Poision Damage. Why? BECAUSE IT'S A POISION. I think that pic is doctored anyway. The pic is just screwy, and it doesn't give a weight or anything.

Say it's real. OH MY GOD IT IS A SPORE. IT IS THE APPOCYLYPSE. Listen to yourselves, whining like little 5 year old children. The terrorists WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. You need to simpily pick up that anthrax and go PK with it! ...Wait, don't do that. PKing is bad.

Stop whining.

*Pulls out Mod Whistle* EY MODS! LOCK TIME!

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 07-29-2002 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by Max-imus


You are twisting the point, and doing it poorly. The original point was why the hell is Anthrax even in a game that kids play? I am sure that not only Americans think that this is wrong to have in a game that kids play, it is completely ignorant of whoever put it there, and even more ignorant on your part to make fun of Americans because of something that does not belong in a kid's game and that offends many people, non-Americans included. Nothing is wrong with using them in context, but if anything of that matter is used IN A GAME THAT KIDS PLAY, it is wrong. If the staff on Graal2002 had any COMMON SENSE, they would have just called it a plague or something, not anthrax.

Anthrax is an infectious agent buried deep within the earths surface that is the result of years of biodegration. It came from Crimea into the European continent and killed 1/3 of it's population.

So if you really want to get technical, like I said in my previous post, the black plague IS anthrax. That skull can be used for all sorts of neat stuff. I know for one that I would get that skull, load it onto a trebuchet and catapult it into a city. The people get sick there and they die!

Ohno, but I suppose we can't havce that happening, this is a game for kids...

Sir_Gareth 07-29-2002 11:30 PM

Oh god.
Wow
The Black Plauge killed lots of people it isnt, Hush hush OMG DONT TALK ABOUT THAT. Yes Anthrax filled alot of people, So Has the flu,Cancer,Car Crashes,Air Plane Crashes,Guns,Bombs,Arrows,
Cannons,Catapults and many other types of warfare but we still talk about them.

brock128 07-29-2002 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by Sir_Gareth
Oh god.
Wow
The Black Plauge killed lots of people it isnt, Hush hush OMG DONT TALK ABOUT THAT. Yes Anthrax filled alot of people, So Has the flu,Cancer,Car Crashes,Air Plane Crashes,Guns,Bombs,Arrows,
Cannons,Catapults and many other types of warfare but we still talk about them.

Don't forget drowning, cats, dogs, machine guns, daggers, swords, table lamps, Evercrack, cameras, spontanious combustion, sharks, TV, computers, Pepsi and Rock Candy (Not really...), Nsync's singing *Gets pelted by random fans*...

TheFrozenFiend 07-30-2002 12:55 AM

If anthrax, a natural disease, is too extreme then hadn't they better disable swords on every server. Disable dying. Disable magic. Disable every weapon. Disable the hurt gani. Disable the death ani. Maky dying impossible. Remove baddies. Add pillows (extra soft mind you).
Then rename the game to "Ultimate Pillow Fighting".

If you say "No" then that means there is nothing wrong with anthrax being in the game.
If you say "Yes" then that means you should just walk away from Graal and never play it again.

Conclusion: This is not a big deal. This is a [SIZE=0.5]minute[/SIZE] deal. If it's too extreme for you then stay away from Graal. If it's not then it is none of your business if it is too extreme for someone else.

Have a nice day.

Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue 07-30-2002 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by TheFrozenFiend
If anthrax, a natural disease, is too extreme then hadn't they better disable swords on every server. Disable dying. Disable magic. Disable every weapon. Disable the hurt gani. Disable the death ani. Maky dying impossible. Remove baddies. Add pillows (extra soft mind you).
Then rename the game to "Ultimate Pillow Fighting".

If you say "No" then that means there is nothing wrong with anthrax being in the game.
If you say "Yes" then that means you should just walk away from Graal and never play it again.

Conclusion: This is not a big deal. This is a [SIZE=0.5]minute[/SIZE] deal. If it's too extreme for you then stay away from Graal. If it's not then it is none of your business if it is too extreme for someone else.

Have a nice day.


That promotes violence you sick bastard ;)

brock128 07-30-2002 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue



That promotes violence you sick bastard ;)


Zakur 07-30-2002 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by Max-imus

Diablo 2 has a mature rating, graal is geared towards children, so why are you trying to compare the two and justify using something in Diablo with something in graal?

But I believe that the 'M' rating came from the animated violence and gore, hence the "Rated M for animated violence, animated blood and gore," not because of one of their magic suffixes for poison.

zrpgp2p 07-30-2002 02:18 AM

You people are really making too much of a big deal out of this situation.

haunter 07-30-2002 02:24 AM

Did you ever notice how when something happens to america and someone takes a "crack" at it, or puts it somewhere "like anthrax in this game" everyone freaks out... If someone made a computer game where you are a terrorist and you have to crash a plane into a building, lawsuits would be all over the place, yet world war 2 games can sell like crazy. The world is ****ed.

AlexH 07-30-2002 02:29 AM

Some people are really making a big deal over a small thing.
It's a word in a game.
Just because the word has been associated with terrorists in the past year doesn't mean it won't be used anymore.
What about the nuclear explosion in Japan? (I think it was Japan)
People that were affected by that have gotten on with their lives and they don't go ape everytime someone mentions anything remotly similar to do with what happened.
And a few days back the plane crase in Ukraine where a fighter jet in an air show crashed into the crowed killing 63 people.
The people who survived arn't going to go and get all mad and upset if they see a plane in a game are they?

Aliendude 07-30-2002 02:40 AM

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Originally posted by AlexH
Some people are really making a big deal over a small thing.
It's a word in a game.
Just because the word has been associated with terrorists in the past year doesn't mean it won't be used anymore.
What about the nuclear explosion in Japan? (I think it was Japan)
People that were affected by that have gotten on with their lives and they don't go ape everytime someone mentions anything remotly similar to do with what happened.
And a few days back the plane crase in Ukraine where a fighter jet in an air show crashed into the crowed killing 63 people.
The people who survived arn't going to go and get all mad and upset if they see a plane in a game are they?


Your points are way differant. The nuke was what, 50 years ago? I'm sure the Japanese didn't wouldn't want to see that much nukes in games for a few years...

Jets are common things, not meant for killing. Anthrax isn't common, and is meant for killing.

I also think it's stupid to take anthrax out, it's just like any other weapon or poisen. But, if people are offended by it, it won't hurt us to rename it. Really, what do you care if they change the name of the anthrax to plague? If it offends people, may as well change it.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 07-30-2002 03:18 AM

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Originally posted by haunter
Did you ever notice how when something happens to america and someone takes a "crack" at it, or puts it somewhere "like anthrax in this game" everyone freaks out... If someone made a computer game where you are a terrorist and you have to crash a plane into a building, lawsuits would be all over the place, yet world war 2 games can sell like crazy. The world is ****ed.
I'll wholeheartedly agree with that. There is a whiff of hypocrisy in the air amongst some people, not all, but some of them.

adam 07-30-2002 03:30 AM

Do you play CounterStrike?

THEN YOUR EVIL YOU PLAY A GAME THAT REMINDS PEOPLE OF TERRORISTS



Just kidding...

MalakSylv 07-30-2002 04:10 AM

merlin:

graal staff it its best.

konidias 07-30-2002 05:17 AM

It doesn't really bother me.. although you think it would make some people uneasy, knowing that the people that put it in the game, probably have your home address. :p

Sir_Gareth 07-30-2002 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by Max-imus


I applaud your maturity.

If you've read anything on the website or had any common sense at all, you would have realized that graal is geared more towards children. If you were just a bit smarter, you also would have realized that if it is geared towards children that are at least 12 years of age, it wouldn't have extreme stuff that would be in a game with a mature rating. Diablo 2 has a mature rating, graal is geared towards children, so why are you trying to compare the two and justify using something in Diablo with something in graal?

Acculy I guess you didnt read the rules. You have to be 13 years old to sign up for an account on GraalOnline and i Think when your 13 you understand things that happen in the world.
I want to swear and cuss at you so bad right now.

Max-imus 07-30-2002 07:01 AM

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Originally posted by Sir_Gareth

Acculy I guess you didnt read the rules. You have to be 13 years old to sign up for an account on GraalOnline and i Think when your 13 you understand things that happen in the world.
I want to swear and cuss at you so bad right now.

Obviously you didn't read the rules and websites.

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From the Graal2001 Website

Graal was designed by Linux Cyberjoueurs for online gamers between 12 years old to 65 years young.

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From the Graal2001 Website

The Federal Trade Commission's Children's Online Privacy Protection Act of 1998 (COPPA) is intended to protect the privacy of children using the Internet. As of April 21, 2000, many Web sites are required to obtain parental consent before collecting, using, or disclosing personal information from children under 13.

Your post doesn't even make sense... 13 is the age you have to be to register an account without parental consent... If you are under 13, you need to have a parent or guardian to give consent and have them register it for you. Even if what you said was true, what difference does one year make? And I never said that the anthrax being on graal2002 offended me, I said that it should be removed because it offends other people, including a few of my friends who do not have p2p accounts. And I also never said that Anthrax shouldn't be in a game without a Mature rating, I said that Ghost Pirate is not able to justify DIABLO 2 having Anthrax in it with Graal having Anthrax in it, because Diablo 2 has a Mature rating and Graal doesn't, so they cannot be compared. Seriously, you all should read things for what they are and not try to twist them. The arguments in this thread don't even make sense anymore, so it should be locked. And to all the people above, just because someone pointed the anthrax thing out, it doesn't give you the right to mock and make fun of the 9/11 attacks... not only is it going off topic, it is showing that you are completely immature and ignorant.

brock128 07-30-2002 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by Aliendude



Your points are way differant. The nuke was what, 50 years ago? I'm sure the Japanese didn't wouldn't want to see that much nukes in games for a few years...

Jets are common things, not meant for killing. Anthrax isn't common, and is meant for killing.

I also think it's stupid to take anthrax out, it's just like any other weapon or poisen. But, if people are offended by it, it won't hurt us to rename it. Really, what do you care if they change the name of the anthrax to plague? If it offends people, may as well change it.

THINK -> POST

50 years ago, they didn't have videogames. Maybe pong. In early stages.

Jets are made for killing most of the time. Antrax is more common then you think. IT'S A SPORE. NOT A BOMB.

Okay. Stop being stupid. Anthrax is, of my knowledge, a spore. A spore! You may be able to find it in barns! It is not a bomb. Stefan will not go over to your house, ring the doorbell, throw white powder on you, and scream "BOO YOU'RE DEAD."

Besides, Anthrax is actually easy to get off, if you're quick. Don't breathe it in, get to a phone as quick, call 911, and just wait. Breathe as little as possible. DO NOT MOVE ASIDE FROM GETTING THE PHONE - That will spread the spores around.

Sir_Gareth 07-30-2002 08:00 AM

Oh god. Its not making fun of 9/11 its nto saing "this is anthrax HAHA AMERICA" no.
Its just talking about something that exists in life gawd.

Kuza 07-30-2002 08:11 AM

Things like this aren't supposed to be found in games. We play games to escape from the real world, and then we stumble across antrhax? There could of been another poison used in place of anthrax of all things. Venom for crying outloud, poison, toxin, etc.

ANYTHING would of been better than anthrax. Gimme a break.

Aliendude 07-30-2002 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by brock128


THINK -> POST

50 years ago, they didn't have videogames. Maybe pong. In early stages.

Jets are made for killing most of the time. Antrax is more common then you think. IT'S A SPORE. NOT A BOMB.

Okay. Stop being stupid. Anthrax is, of my knowledge, a spore. A spore! You may be able to find it in barns! It is not a bomb. Stefan will not go over to your house, ring the doorbell, throw white powder on you, and scream "BOO YOU'RE DEAD."

Besides, Anthrax is actually easy to get off, if you're quick. Don't breathe it in, get to a phone as quick, call 911, and just wait. Breathe as little as possible. DO NOT MOVE ASIDE FROM GETTING THE PHONE - That will spread the spores around.

I know they didn't have games 50 years ago. I meant IF they did have games, they wouldn't want to see much nukes in them for a few years after it happened.

They weren't shot down in the jet, they were just flying it. Flying a jet is not supposed to kill you.

I know anthrax isn't poisen, I just wasn't thinking :p (When I said anthrax is meant for killing, I meant the anthrax that people were sending around)

I don't know why you went into all the stuff about anthrax not being bombs...

I guess my post wasn't very clear x.x

brock128 07-30-2002 08:25 AM

THE TERRORISTS WANT US TO BE AFRAID

YOU ARE AFRAID IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE ANTRAX IN GRAAL

YOU ARE WHAT THE TERRORISTS WANT

SHAPE UP OR SHIP OUT

ghostsamurai 07-30-2002 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by freddyfox
I don't really see what everyone's big problem is. If the terrorists had used a more potent flu virus instead of anthrax, would you all be whining about this?

Neonight:

1.) Anthrax isn't as deadly as it's believed to be. The sickness you receive is a bad cold. That's it.

2.) I could care less what it is. It's sadistic. It's immature. It's horrible. I wouldn't be surprised if whoever put it up gets a real ass-kicking.

Point blank:

I don't give a **** what your nationality is. I don't give a **** if you're American, European, Ethiopian--I don't care. Anthrax is no more common or rare in any country than any other, with the exception of Russia. Russia has been handling anthrax for a very long time now. Anything is a weapon. If you inhale baking soda, it's going to clog up your lungs and give you a seizure. Trust me, I've had it happen from when I was little. (No I did not inhale it on purpose. :rolleyes:) Are you all saying if I send baking soda to people and they're so ****ing idiotic that they inhale it, I should get in trouble for this? Then would you all be *****ing about seeing baking soda on Graal2002? :\ Gah.

haunter 07-30-2002 08:38 AM

OMGOSH ONE TIME I SAW THIS THING ON TV! AND THIS GUY KILLEDS A GUY WITH A SPON! AND LIKE I WAS PLAYINGF THS GAME! AND LIEK THERE WAS A SPOON! SO IM LIKE! *SUESUESUE BANHAMMER* TO THE COMPANY AND AL LTHAT!

DarkPyro_2001 07-30-2002 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by Thak2
Anthrax has been around for hundreds of years.

It's always been deadly, but only recently has it been made worse, and more toxic.

So, Anthrax could exist in a medieval setting.

Like in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. :)

DarkPyro_2001 07-30-2002 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by Max-imus


Obviously you didn't read the rules and websites.





Your post doesn't even make sense... 13 is the age you have to be to register an account without parental consent... If you are under 13, you need to have a parent or guardian to give consent and have them register it for you. Even if what you said was true, what difference does one year make? And I never said that the anthrax being on graal2002 offended me, I said that it should be removed because it offends other people, including a few of my friends who do not have p2p accounts. And I also never said that Anthrax shouldn't be in a game without a Mature rating, I said that Ghost Pirate is not able to justify DIABLO 2 having Anthrax in it with Graal having Anthrax in it, because Diablo 2 has a Mature rating and Graal doesn't, so they cannot be compared. Seriously, you all should read things for what they are and not try to twist them. The arguments in this thread don't even make sense anymore, so it should be locked. And to all the people above, just because someone pointed the anthrax thing out, it doesn't give you the right to mock and make fun of the 9/11 attacks... not only is it going off topic, it is showing that you are completely immature and ignorant.

Hehe, I think I signed up when I was 11 just before that thing went in effect. :D ...or actually 10, because my birthday was a few days after that... and I think I didn't sign up until I was 11... CRAP.

*leaves to run away from the feds*

Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue 07-30-2002 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by DarkPyro_2001

Like in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. :)

"Are you suggesting that coconuts migrate?"

TheFrozenFiend 07-30-2002 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue



That promotes violence you sick bastard ;)

Fine.

Remove pillows. Add feathers. Call the game "Ultimate Feather Tickling".

Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue 07-30-2002 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by TheFrozenFiend


Fine.

Remove pillows. Add feathers. Call the game "Ultimate Feather Tickling".

What about those that are alergic to feathers? You're offending them. :(
And what about those people who laugh so hard it hurts/they can't breathe? VIOLENCE! :( :(

Mman 07-31-2002 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue


What about those that are alergic to feathers? You're offending them. :(
And what about those people who laugh so hard it hurts/they can't breathe? VIOLENCE! :( :(


Violence is part of life, and an essential part of all games.

brock128 07-31-2002 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by Mman



Violence is part of life, and an essential part of all games.

They were being scarcastic.


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