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Brad 07-08-2002 08:43 AM

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Originally posted by magicbud3344



your AIM name says it all my furry friend

:cool:

Googi 07-08-2002 08:53 AM

G2K1 has gotten kinda slow lately, all I do is...

a) Pearl dive to pay rent on my PH
b) Wait for RP events
c) Wait for Events
d) Answer questions on FAQ (Probably only reason I stick around)

DarkHero2002 07-08-2002 09:09 AM

thats....real fun

Ghost Pirate 07-08-2002 09:15 AM

I guess this thread is to be merged or closed according to Kamuiis new "rules"

Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue 07-08-2002 09:57 AM

-Less corrupt staff

Name 'em.
Slag. Killing people on survivor island and blocking them from getting prize?
There were others but can't think of em right now.


-Less n00b staff

Name 'em. This makes no sense anyways.
This is basically the same as corrupt, I don't know why I listed it.

-Less staff toys

Great how there aren't any, right?
I made this list when I thought there were still tons, I found out later that alot had been removed.

A.Police need warpto

Yes, by giving them all RC or Admin NPC, right?
Err..no. By giving them plain warpto.

B. Developers need warpto

They have it. Oops.
Use common sense-that means they should keep it

E. NO "YOUR SOUL HAS BEEN PUSHED OUT OF YOUR BODY" NPCS FOR STAFF! THAT HELPS NOTHING AND IS JUST THERE TO PLEASE STAFF! That NPC, if it stays, should stay in the form of eveyrbody must pay some gralats to get.

Question, what exactly are you talking about?
You're an idiot, do you ever pay attention? Staff have recently gained control of an npc that they can shoot, and when it hits someone, it hurts like hell, and the message "Your soul has been pushed from your body", and you can't move for about 5 seconds. They later removed this npc (Or so I heard) but when I made this list, it still existed.

F. Who the fux needs Staff boots? Remove those. A developer/bug tester could just use warpto. It's faster

Actually, I need them.
Care to explain how/why?

-Hats should be lowered in price/Free. So that hats can be what they truly are. Decorations, and people will wear them for that, and buy them for what they want, not what is popular.

That defeats their current purpose.
Duh. But it adds fun. Fun=more people=more money for Stefan

-You should be able to put hats on peoples heads

Why, to annoy them?
Because its fun. And this is only if hats are free. And fun=people=money for Stefan.

-People who make hats that get put up should recieve a (Free) copy of the hat.

And why is this?
Because they spent time to make the server better. They should get rewarded somehow. And if you're too stupid to realize that by (Free) I don't mean their hat that they can sell, I mean give it to them in the (Free) form, they cannot sell it/drop it. Only wear it. Because it wouldn't be right to spend 6k just for YOUR OWN HAT.

-It should be easier to get hats put up then posting on the forums, because right now only popular people get hats put up.
You should have to send them to Stefan..

Why Stefan? That makes no sense.
I dunno. You have another person in mind?

TrueHeaT 07-08-2002 10:25 AM

HELL no
if I have to give up my 80 thousand gralats I will cry

Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue 07-08-2002 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT
HELL no
if I have to give up my 80 thousand gralats I will cry


This is exactly WHY it needs to be reset

Zolrieg 07-08-2002 12:55 PM

Okay, this is coming from someone rich on the server. I have 62 shoguns, 10k, and a bomy. I'm asking you to reset the economy. Geez, come on! Give us a break.

Minoc 07-08-2002 12:57 PM

No reset =\
People would have to work for gralats again
Working on Graal is boring x_X

Torankusu 07-08-2002 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT
HELL no
if I have to give up my 80 thousand gralats I will cry

59k is likely to be gone anyway. ;\

Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue 07-08-2002 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by Soto
depends if we get odl bodys or not :D

I still say that both bodies should stay,
say setbody 100+ for new
say setbody 1-anywhere below 100 for old

Besides, I've always wanted to fight old vs new

Ghost Pirate 07-08-2002 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue



I still say that both bodies should stay,
say setbody 100+ for new
say setbody 1-anywhere below 100 for old

Besides, I've always wanted to fight old vs new


Theres a slight problem with that

Both bodies have different ganis

it be like adding another race
Dwarfs hehe

Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue 07-08-2002 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by Ghost Pirate



Theres a slight problem with that

Both bodies have different ganis

it be like adding another race
Dwarfs hehe


Your point is...?
You'd know the sacrifice you make when you chose one.
(Personally I have no clue which one is statistically better-I do know I spar better with the new, though they would appear to be WORSE..but eh, that's just me)

Minoc 07-08-2002 03:30 PM

many of the ganis of the new bodies are messed up =\

Ghost Pirate 07-08-2002 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by Minoc
many of the ganis of the new bodies are messed up =\
thats because those messups are the old body ganis
graal2001 staff had to make mostly all new ganis

Minoc 07-08-2002 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by Ghost Pirate

thats because those messups are the old body ganis
graal2001 staff had to make mostly all new ganis

So why add the bodies before all the ganis were made? +|

Ghost Pirate 07-08-2002 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by Minoc

So why add the bodies before all the ganis were made? +|

ask Stefan

Sparkplug 07-08-2002 04:50 PM

Reset and bring back old vodys and HP... it would be fun mining again and stuff :)

-SLaG- 07-08-2002 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
kamuii, clean your glasses.

130 to 80 (and below) is not a population INCREASE. We only have more people BECAUsE GRAAL 2002 STOPPED BEING UPDATED (which I had expected from the early release.)

A reset would be nice, completely destroy money, replace jobs with things that you need for quests, and other things. Old bodies, old HEARTS system. Argh.

god.

**** it.

You people dont understand, This isnt classic its 2k1 it runs how 2k1 runs. The things here are because its a different server with different staff and a different view. If you want to reset to start over whats they point? So we can reset again. But if you mean lets reset and change everything why not just ***** about making a new server?! You people don't tend to see that history does and will repeat itself. So stop whining its fine as is.

Gangster88 07-08-2002 06:37 PM

No!

LOA--Paul 07-08-2002 11:01 PM

"This ain't classic"
Reset classic a third time and now CUSTOMERS as we are will raise hell, rar, unless its for VERY VERY good reason -_-

konidias 07-08-2002 11:21 PM

The way I see it:

Stefan leaving 2k1 = Creating an open wound in 2k1
Kamuii managing 2k1 = Pouring alcohol into the open wound

Kamuii, I'm about sick of your complete lack of management skills with 2k1. You don't listen to players, you don't make good decisions, and you don't seem to care about improving 2k1.

You're not looking at the big picture. When 2k2 is up and running with everything working, 2k1 will basically cease to exist. You're just being smug in thinking that your "near 100" playercount is going to stay that way very long.

You're adding BS towns and crap that will follow the exact same pattern as all the other stuff.. BIG FRIGGIN DEAL. Oh wow, look antora village. It will have a crappy hat shop and the regular 2k1 crap in it. How about you get educated in what makes people play Graal.

You only got the position you have because you're friends with Birdbird. You can't handle Providence, and you can't handle 2k1. Back when Birdbird was going to replace me with you as management, I nearly laughed myself silly. I asked him why he was going to replace me with you, and he basically said "he is a good manager, and I know him really well since we are real life friends"

Good manager? At the time he was going to hire you, Providence was at an all time low. Yeah, great management skills. You do not act like a manager, you yell at paying customers that are already displeased with the service they are getting. I don't see how the hell you think you're doing well.

Lyndzey 07-08-2002 11:25 PM

I would want a reset, but we cannot have a reset. If one person does not want a reset, then it will not be happening because the people that say no are paying customers.

Note:If you are not having fun on 2001, there are other servers to play on.

Falcor 07-08-2002 11:26 PM

Heh, Much like our own society, The rich will do anything to keep their wealth and the poor just want it to be fair. I guess since "fair" never really happens in real life, Its not about to happen on graal.

konidias 07-08-2002 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey
I would want a reset, but we cannot have a reset. If one person does not want a reset, then it will not be happening because the people that say no are paying customers.

Note:If you are not having fun on 2001, there are other servers to play on.

I fail to see how that works. If 100 people are not satisfied and want a reset, yet 1 person doesn't want a reset, that makes sense? That's basically pissing off 100 paying customers so that 1 can be happy.

Falcor 07-08-2002 11:31 PM

We have been whining about the reset for a long time, aparently It won't happen. Don't you think we are beating a dead horse here?

Paradiesapfel 07-08-2002 11:33 PM

NOPE!

konidias 07-08-2002 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by Falcor
We have been whining about the reset for a long time, aparently It won't happen. Don't you think we are beating a dead horse here?
I just posted here to whine about Kamuii and his awful management skills. :p

*whines some more*

Googi 07-08-2002 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey Note:If you are not having fun on 2001, there are other servers to play on.
Which is why I play N-Pulse :D

Spanko 07-08-2002 11:41 PM

Asuka:

I'm going to prod the horse with a stick.

First off lets look at the title of this game.

Graal:The Adventure.

First off, the current adventure consists of getting online.
Then you beg someone for money. You receive many thousands of gralets from some kind rich bastard. You use these thousands of gralets to buy everything you need. From every hat imaginable to supposedly essetial fishing poles. After that your adventure is basically complete. Hardly any npcs to quest for. Back when i played there were 2 hearts to find. damn great adventure.

Classic is more of an adventure than this. I thought graal was supposed to evolve with G2K1 and G2k2? However with the lack of the npcserver and server scripting Classic is able to be more of an adventure than G2K1 and G2K2. Why not restart and start fresh. I like toran's ideas for crafting things for quests. Lets quest instead of collect YAY!

Tyhm 07-09-2002 07:27 AM

Classic=Graal: The Adventure
G2K1=Graal: The Bomy Moon, or Graal: The Theme Park, something like that.
G2K2=Graal: The Southern Isles or Graal: The RP or Graal: The Harvest Moon or something.

ZanderX 07-09-2002 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by konidias
The way I see it:

Stefan leaving 2k1 = Creating an open wound in 2k1
Kamuii managing 2k1 = Pouring alcohol into the open wound

Kamuii, I'm about sick of your complete lack of management skills with 2k1. You don't listen to players, you don't make good decisions, and you don't seem to care about improving 2k1.

You're not looking at the big picture. When 2k2 is up and running with everything working, 2k1 will basically cease to exist. You're just being smug in thinking that your "near 100" playercount is going to stay that way very long.

You're adding BS towns and crap that will follow the exact same pattern as all the other stuff.. BIG FRIGGIN DEAL. Oh wow, look antora village. It will have a crappy hat shop and the regular 2k1 crap in it. How about you get educated in what makes people play Graal.

You only got the position you have because you're friends with Birdbird. You can't handle Providence, and you can't handle 2k1. Back when Birdbird was going to replace me with you as management, I nearly laughed myself silly. I asked him why he was going to replace me with you, and he basically said "he is a good manager, and I know him really well since we are real life friends"

Good manager? At the time he was going to hire you, Providence was at an all time low. Yeah, great management skills. You do not act like a manager, you yell at paying customers that are already displeased with the service they are getting. I don't see how the hell you think you're doing well.

I'm simply going to laugh.

konidias 07-09-2002 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX


I'm simply going to laugh.

This is exactly what I mean. You know that you yell at paying customers and you only do what you want instead of what the players want. It makes me sick.

MalakSylv 07-09-2002 07:36 AM

Kamuii's a great manager. He doesn't suck up and bullshit people, and try to make players feel like he's part of their family. He acts like a normal person. He may not be a scripter, level maker, GFX maker, whatever, but he's still organised and SMART. Something you may find you lack, Konidias.

HELLO I AM KONIDIAS WHEE I CAN DO STUFF THAT LOTS OF OTHER PEOPLE CAN DO HOORAY, LETS ALL SUCK UP TO THE BIG GUYS AND CRY WHEN THINGS DONT GO OUR WAY, THEN ACT AS IF WE KNOW EVERYTHING. JESUS 4EVER

ZanderX 07-09-2002 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by konidias


This is exactly what I mean. You know that you yell at paying customers and you only do what you want instead of what the players want. It makes me sick.

What I want? No, Konidias. You don't understand and never will.

Yes, I yell at paying customers. On the forums, yes. Not in game. Not on RC. Not when I'm doing my job.

MalakSylv 07-09-2002 07:37 AM

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Originally posted by konidias


This is exactly what I mean. You know that you yell at paying customers and you only do what you want instead of what the players want. It makes me sick.

Your love for yourself makes ME sick. You're as bad as Godspeed.

konidias 07-09-2002 07:43 AM

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Originally posted by MalakSylv
Kamuii's a great manager. He doesn't suck up and bullshit people, and try to make players feel like he's part of their family. He acts like a normal person. He may not be a scripter, level maker, GFX maker, whatever, but he's still organised and SMART. Something you may find you lack, Konidias.

HELLO I AM KONIDIAS WHEE I CAN DO STUFF THAT LOTS OF OTHER PEOPLE CAN DO HOORAY, LETS ALL SUCK UP TO THE BIG GUYS AND CRY WHEN THINGS DONT GO OUR WAY, THEN ACT AS IF WE KNOW EVERYTHING. JESUS 4EVER

Your comment about my intelligence, isn't very intelligent. Plus I don't know who you're pretending to be in that post, but it's not me. For one, I don't have a job on any server. I never say I can do stuff other people can do. I never suck up to "the big guys", and I don't act as if I know everything. You couldn't be more farther away from the truth.

However, you see I have sources into 2k1 development, and all I see from Kamuii is "blah blah appease the idiots, blah blah same old 2k1" He's basically planning to throw everyone a bone and hope they don't discover it's basically the same bone they had before.

What is it about me that makes you think I love myself? Because I have confidence? Oh no, I better not think that I have any talent at all or I might look like I love myself.

ZanderX 07-09-2002 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by konidias


However, you see I have sources into 2k1 development, and all I see from Kamuii is "blah blah appease the idiots, blah blah same old 2k1" He's basically planning to throw everyone a bone and hope they don't discover it's basically the same bone they had before.

Who's your source? The Muffin Man?

freddyfox 07-09-2002 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX


Who's your source? The Muffin Man?

The Muffin Man?

MalakSylv 07-09-2002 07:47 AM

Do you know the muffin man, the muffin man, the muffin man?


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