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xxRamzaxx 05-31-2002 07:20 AM

Well, I see many of you like the levels. I made pretty much the entire world. I had a little help from Viktor and Koji and stuff but other than that I did it all. I find it as a compliment seeing as how thats what everyone likes about it but an offense no one knew I made them :(

I say I was a better owner than Zen for the sole fact I did a ton of work. I hear Ion is doing a great job and its getting much more popular.

Just wanted to say that, I will leave now

Yakuna2001 05-31-2002 07:22 AM

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Originally posted by xxRamzaxx
Well, I see many of you like the levels. I made pretty much the entire world. I had a little help from Viktor and Koji and stuff but other than that I did it all. I find it as a compliment seeing as how thats what everyone likes about it but an offense no one knew I made them :(

I say I was a better owner than Zen for the sole fact I did a ton of work. I hear Ion is doing a great job and its getting much more popular.

Just wanted to say that, I will leave now

heh never liked you. reminded me too much of myself when i ran bravo 3 years back.

IonFlux2001 05-31-2002 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by xxRamzaxx
Well, I see many of you like the levels. I made pretty much the entire world. I had a little help from Viktor and Koji and stuff but other than that I did it all. I find it as a compliment seeing as how thats what everyone likes about it but an offense no one knew I made them :(

I say I was a better owner than Zen for the sole fact I did a ton of work. I hear Ion is doing a great job and its getting much more popular.

Just wanted to say that, I will leave now

I gave you credit in the first thing I said =p. But anyways I have added updates to the overworld =O go look bish =p.

IonFlux2001 05-31-2002 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by Yakuna2001

heh never liked you. reminded me too much of myself when i ran bravo 3 years back.

Helmut ish cool. You on the other hand on Bravo were a **** >=O
You wouldnt hire me back as GP cause I wasnt 15 =/. But when Bravo went p2p I was nice to you cause im that kind of person and you tryed to changed my P/W. >=(

Thak2 05-31-2002 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by Yakuna2001

heh never liked you. reminded me too much of myself when i ran bravo 3 years back.

You ran Bravo? When? I don't remember that... but I do have a bad memory.

IonFlux2001 05-31-2002 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by Thak2


You ran Bravo? When? I don't remember that... but I do have a bad memory.

He was Owner at a time. I thought... Maby I have bad memory also x_x

prozacboy666 05-31-2002 09:01 PM

Carnage? Old ET Admin... Looks like everyone forgot about me. I was ET Admin for 3 mounths before Noose fired me. (for dumb reason)

I also like it when Lord Helmut was owner. No offence Ion i wub you to. But me and Lord Helmut had some differences but aleast i got to talk to him. Lord I have to say one more thing. Thanks for owning a great server, I couldn't have been the same with out you.

~Kain

IonFlux2001 05-31-2002 09:13 PM

I am so pissed right now. >=(. Either Zen or someone on his account came on RC and delted all of the gifs. This ****in sets us back. Gah this pisses me off so much grr. I dont think it was Zen because he had just made me a graphic the day before. And WC came on and said something or did something to get banned also. Grr. Gah this would be 2 Owners that came and delted stuff I thought I could trust Zen. If it wasnt Zen then I am sorry.

Yakuna2001 05-31-2002 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by IonFlux2001

Helmut ish cool. You on the other hand on Bravo were a **** >=O
You wouldnt hire me back as GP cause I wasnt 15 =/. But when Bravo went p2p I was nice to you cause im that kind of person and you tryed to changed my P/W. >=(

heh im a **** because i wouldnt hire you as gp? hmm.
i dont remember trying to change any passwords. oh well.

Timpan3 05-31-2002 10:06 PM

like whoa its much people coming to babylon now:D

user13-xo 06-01-2002 09:27 AM

Zen didnt have rights how could he of done it? I might know who it is too :)

homeless1 06-01-2002 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by IonFlux2001
I am so pissed right now. >=(. Either Zen or someone on his account came on RC and delted all of the gifs. This ****in sets us back. Gah this pisses me off so much grr. I dont think it was Zen because he had just made me a graphic the day before. And WC came on and said something or did something to get banned also. Grr. Gah this would be 2 Owners that came and delted stuff I thought I could trust Zen. If it wasnt Zen then I am sorry.
Yah I just figured out what happened a little while ago. Besides, if I was going to do tons of **** against Babylon I wouldnt have taken my OWN levels folder and other folder rights away weeks and weeks ago. lol.

Here is a link to my post:

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...5&pagenumber=4

And Lord Helmut, I sorta resent that remark, because I did infact do alot of work. Not all ended up going public simply because I couldnt get enough consistant help with levels and I had to do all gfx work still, lol...I was a hardass when it came to quality. I sent back those 54 levels to the LAT Admin like 15 times over a period of a month or so, and he ends up quitting; I still have them, Ion you should probably ask me for it on AIM some time because it was getting along rather nicely. I did alot to keep that server up, repairing obviously isnt as glorious as adding, I'll give you that, but I had to focus alot of my energy on sayyy repairing from mass deletion of large parts of the server on more than one occasion and from working with all those bugs afterwards. Well I'm not mad at you about this now, but I'd say that massively attacking your own server was your biggest fault as owner and massive uncontrolable anger spurts was your biggest character flaw as a person...although I realize your trying harder to be better about that stuff now. I am personally proud of myself that I was able to just walk away from ownership like that quietly, without any backlash. I dont care if you or anybody else wants to flame me for this stuff, but I have a life and my own dreams to persue...Babylon was never 'mine'.

But yah, LH when you wrote that I didnt know what to think of it, but it seemed a bit offensive, like your assuming I just sat on my ass doing nothing...Hell I tried to be a pretty damn nice guy the whole time I was owner, and then theres you who banned Carnage, with the reason given as "I hate you"...LOL. Anyways sorry if you didnt like anything I said but um yah I felt like I had to say something on my behalf. Also I'm glad we are finally talking again and trying to patch things back up, maybe forget alot of the past and have a fresh start.

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I think I got frustrated with Carnage being so uhh him all the time, very hard to get along with when he wants to enter into offensive arguments every other encounter. No offence to him, just bleh. I didnt fire him because I tried to be fair, and he handled events fine, so if I fired him I would know it was for no other reason than that he was an ******* alot of the time, and to me that doesnt constitute whether a person is doing their job well or not.

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user13-xo 06-01-2002 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by homeless1


Yah I just figured out what happened a little while ago. Besides, if I was going to do tons of **** against Babylon I wouldnt have taken my OWN levels folder and other folder rights away weeks and weeks ago. lol.

I was right :D

Tin Man 06-01-2002 08:48 PM

YAY all the staff are posting. Ok umm *thinks* uhhhh i liked all the staff, i never had a problem with any of them. Practically all the staff were my friends and now that im getting back into the groove of GFX i guess i'll do some gfx for Babylon again if thats ok with you Ion. LH i'll also have the archer done by the dead line.

-more babylon stuff-

I like Babylons levels alot becuase i duno they made the people more social while also looking pretty. I liked the GFX because i think Zen's really good at it but also it fit the PW (he did a good job with the animals. The animals so many animals *shivers*). I also think Xaviar and Chrisz are did/doing a great job. Xaviar made some really sweet monster and NPCW sctipts while Chrisz is continuing the legacy with some really sweet stuff, i was blown away at what he had made when i finally returned to playing Graal.

i think Babylon is pretty good concidering all the things that hae happend to it.

warp2ukew 06-01-2002 09:14 PM

no offense to dark angel (GFX Admin) but I do bet that one of his GATs are better than he is. LPX (Tin Man) should definetly be the new GFX Admin. Dark Angel has not made ANYTHING that I know of.

IonFlux2001 06-01-2002 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by warp2ukew
no offense to dark angel (GFX Admin) but I do bet that one of his GATs are better than he is. LPX (Tin Man) should definetly be the new GFX Admin. Dark Angel has not made ANYTHING that I know of.
Ehh you work for me ... ?

GraalBR 06-01-2002 09:26 PM

Ok this IS how it is
Dark Angel =Tried out for GFX on Mithica but Failed :-D
Ape = Started Playing Babylon then got GFX Team by showing them illegal GFX made from what i think was a FF game.
30 mins later he is made captain, Then he tells me how much his GFX job sucks and how he wants to work on Mithica so i told him to apply thats how i got hold of the GFX

the FF GFX he Stole was so Detailed it would take a amazing GFX artist atleast 3 days to make.

U have High GFX who cant make GFX well done ion well done :-D

btw. Im not offending u just thinkin u should know this.

IonFlux2001 06-01-2002 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GraalBR
Ok this IS how it is
Dark Angel =Tried out for GFX on Mithica but Failed :-D
Ape = Started Playing Babylon then got GFX Team by showing them illegal GFX made from what i think was a FF game.
30 mins later he is made captain, Then he tells me how much his GFX job sucks and how he wants to work on Mithica so i told him to apply thats how i got hold of the GFX

the FF GFX he Stole was so Detailed it would take a amazing GFX artist atleast 3 days to make.

U have High GFX who cant make GFX well done ion well done :-D

btw. Im not offending u just thinkin u should know this.

The only one I hired was DA and he made a aswome carrage thingy. But yes Shavo and LPX are better but LPX used to hardly ever do anything. And Shavo quit for I dont know why. And me and Ape I dont like him
1)He was a hacker not a person I really want to work on my server so if people have a prob with him I will let him go I didnt see his GFX. But I will get LPX and Shavo if he wants sence he is a GP now

GraalBR 06-01-2002 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by IonFlux2001

The only one I hired was DA and he made a aswome carrage thingy. But yes Shavo and LPX are better but LPX used to hardly ever do anything. And Shavo quit for I dont know why. And me and Ape I dont like him
1)He was a hacker not a person I really want to work on my server so if people have a prob with him I will let him go I didnt see his GFX. But I will get LPX and Shavo if he wants sence he is a GP now

Maybe hes improved i dunno but u should have started him out as GFX Team and let him work his way up to premotion

shavomombetto 06-01-2002 09:56 PM

Let me say something, this is not meant to harm the integrity of the server, but just giving fair warning to the people who work there:

Dark Angel is new to being part of graphics staff. He cannot tell the difference between stolen graphics or not. He also doesn't know his line of duties. When Draco (LAT Captain) asked for him to make a graphic for him, DA said that he didn't have to unless Ion told him to. I hastily informed DA that his line of duty was to make graphics for any staff on Babylon that needed them, then he was quick to call me a "*** sob" because I had prooven him wrong.

Some people, stupid people do stupid things.

GraalBR 06-01-2002 10:13 PM

GFX Admins should always check to c if something is stolen if it seems to good to be true but he hired Ape lol and the reason he called you that name is because hes probably never had any stafff past experiance and knows nothing

user13-xo 06-01-2002 10:39 PM

:grrr: Ape lied to me!! He told me he was Captain, oh well I'll take the tag away when Babylon gets back up. Shavo makes great GFX better then Dark Angel :D .warp2ukew is on the Scripting Team with Van and Adam.

Tin Man 06-02-2002 12:42 AM

its not so much that i didnt do that much work its just that i wasnt asked to to that much, every little GFX LH asked for when i was on AIM it did.

nyghtGT 06-02-2002 12:46 AM

I'd maybe use a few things from other games and such, ideas and types of stuff. But anything copyrighted would be stricly hands off for me!

homeless1 06-02-2002 05:47 AM

Ok I'm guessing all this stuff about Ape and everybody happened AFTER I left, right? Because I know I never hired anybody who tried to show me copyrighted material, or recolors, or only swords/shields/heads, or anything that wasnt original, lol.

After I became owner, I didnt hire any GFX Admin in my place because I knew how to do it...I had always been strict on what is uploaded and used and I think alot of people have gotten mad at me for that sort of thing in the past *shrugs*. That and I was still doing graphic-related tasks.

Its not the place of the GFX Admin to do a graphic whenever a staff member asks for it, he/she isnt a slave. It is, however, the place of the GFX Admin to know what needs to be made for the server and assign jobs to the GFX Team appropriately when the work load gets to be to much for him/her self. GFX Administrators administrate, which is alot more complex than just making pics left and right, although thats part of it.

And yes, Tin Mans right, he wasnt assigned all that much in the long run. I pick at other peoples drawings when i see things that I feel needs to be changed, so I avoided doing that somewhat by trying to be a one-man show alot of the times, which can sometimes = frustration. =\

xxRamzaxx 06-04-2002 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by Tin Man
its not so much that i didnt do that much work its just that i wasnt asked to to that much, every little GFX LH asked for when i was on AIM it did.
Yup :D Im about |--| this close to being brain dead now but I still remember that. And Zen, Im sorry about posting that. Didnt mean to offend you. I was just thinking...I havent really seen any updates since I left and many others have told me the same. But like you said, it was my dream, not yours and I guess thats why I was so obssesive about updating it

Multiflame 06-04-2002 07:37 PM

:)
 
u should thank gastly owner of maloria

IonFlux2001 06-04-2002 09:33 PM

Shavo is our new GFX Admin. =) So quit complaining. Our level team is also expanding. getting some more stuff done.

xxRamzaxx 06-05-2002 06:24 AM

Re: :)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Multiflame
u should thank gastly owner of maloria
What? Who should thank him and why?

Beachbum 06-05-2002 09:02 AM

...
 
the hell if i know...lol


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