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Lugie 01-01-2002 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT
Dante's right enough as usual.
Come back TrueHeaT, we need you now more than ever.

SabreKnot 01-01-2002 03:03 PM

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Hrm, I dont have a knife... but I have a big cleaver! Why dont we discuss this over Zor... I mean salmon :)

FatherDante 01-01-2002 03:03 PM

I've said my peace. :)
Talk won't change history, and I'm content to let the kingdoms go their own way. I made a mistake in trying to estalish a kingdom based on morals: as I told Lugie, it is relient on their being people of morals to constitute it.
Why worry? All I lost was something that I thought, at a time, I could use to spread values. Now I see my mistake, and am content to carry my virtues on my back instead of sharing them with others. :)

Birdbird_0 01-01-2002 03:03 PM

Ok dante enough, Samruai was taken over because you did jack **** for it besides sit around and antagonize the players and let it die slowly, if you don't want to rp don't bring it down for the other players, we chose to pick the new leader rather than just change the flag and give it to wing, end.

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0
Ok dante enough, Samruai was taken over because you did jack **** for it besides sit around and antagonize the players and let it die slowly, if you don't want to rp don't bring it down for the other players, we chose to pick the new leader rather than just change the flag and give it to wing, end.
ouch, that's going to leave a mark

FatherDante 01-01-2002 03:05 PM

Birdbird, I wasn't leader of the samurai... why do you hold me responsible for it? If you want to blame the leader, you should blame Wing: He abandoned us. Some samurai. And, because Wing abandoned us, you punish US, and reward Wing. You either don't know what your talking about, or have no sense. Now, I know you have sense, so the first one must be the case. :)

TrueHeaT 01-01-2002 03:07 PM

blame me if anyone.
and samurai is better as a traveling ghost than as something that gets controlled and altered by kamuii, dustari or birdbird.

Whitey1 01-01-2002 03:08 PM

btw i thought Linzey had control over Samurai or did she quit?

FatherDante 01-01-2002 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT
blame me if anyone.
and samurai is better as a traveling ghost than as something that gets controlled and altered by kamuii, dustari or birdbird.

Bingo! That is my new resolution. I can't spread the warrior spirit, so I will preserve it. Maybe it will never attract anyone again, without a kingdom tag. But, who cares? 95% of the people attracted to tags wanted titles and tags, not to be gifted with a philosophy of life. :)

Whitey1 01-01-2002 03:11 PM

is there going to be a new emporer for Samurai since Wing ran you into the ground?

ZanderX 01-01-2002 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT
blame me if anyone.
and samurai is better as a traveling ghost than as something that gets controlled and altered by kamuii, dustari or birdbird.


I haven't altered it, controlled it, or anything short of making Wing Emperor again.

TrueHeaT 01-01-2002 03:11 PM

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I haven't altered it, controlled it, or anything short of making Wing Emperor again.

I know.

Lugie 01-01-2002 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by Whitey1
is there going to be a new emporer for Samurai since Wing ran you into the ground?
Have you not been paying attention?

ZanderX 01-01-2002 03:14 PM

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I know.

Just making sure. I don't want to alter or change Samurai at all...people have, after all of this, been trying to make me out to be this hideous tyrant warlord, and it's making me sick because I try to do what's best for all and not for one...

Birdbird_0 01-01-2002 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by FatherDante
Birdbird, I wasn't leader of the samurai... why do you hold me responsible for it? If you want to blame the leader, you should blame Wing: He abandoned us. Some samurai. And, because Wing abandoned us, you punish US, and reward Wing. You either don't know what your talking about, or have no sense. Now, I know you have sense, so the first one must be the case. :)
WRONG there. You were the only one with the flag to add and remove king flags and tags, YOU were the only one with the access to do that, and YOU were the only one able to control the king position since you did not let anyone else do that. YOU were the leader what ever the title was, and its YOUR fualt for not changing that.

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by FatherDante

Bingo! That is my new resolution. I can't spread the warrior spirit, so I will preserve it. Maybe it will never attract anyone again, without a kingdom tag. But, who cares? 95% of the people attracted to tags wanted titles and tags, not to be gifted with a philosophy of life. :)

seems like the best choice, but it's a lil selfish

Whitey1 01-01-2002 03:17 PM

no they are using too big of words X_X

Lugie 01-01-2002 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0


WRONG there. You were the only one with the flag to add and remove king flags and tags, YOU were the only one with the access to do that, and YOU were the only one able to control the king position since you did not let anyone else do that. YOU were the leader what ever the title was, and its YOUR fualt for not changing that.

It's not about the tags. How does a word in a player's name have to do with a whole kingdom's morals?

Birdbird_0 01-01-2002 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by FatherDante

Bingo! That is my new resolution. I can't spread the warrior spirit, so I will preserve it. Maybe it will never attract anyone again, without a kingdom tag. But, who cares? 95% of the people attracted to tags wanted titles and tags, not to be gifted with a philosophy of life. :)

Also, this is something that is how you were showing yoruself to be having the ablity to add tags and the full power over samurai, why do you not see your own actions rather than critisise and comment on the actions of others that are only a mere vivid reflection of your own actions?

Lugie 01-01-2002 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by Kasuagi


seems like the best choice, but it's a lil selfish

Well, then help preserve it, instead of watching it be preserved, then. ;)

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by Lugie


Well, then help preserve it, instead of watching it be preserved, then. ;)

what? my small brain can't comprehend that =/

Birdbird_0 01-01-2002 03:23 PM

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It's not about the tags. How does a word in a player's name have to do with a whole kingdom's morals?

That is not the point, he is pointing the finger at the credibility and state of the other kingdoms, morels and ways do not matter when there is no one to share it, Samurai is as much a part of the kingdoms as Dustari and Pirate crew and Zormite, and if they canno't uphold the conditions so other people can rp as samurai than it needs to be fixed.

Lugie 01-01-2002 03:26 PM

But how does it effect the other kingdoms in the first place? What does it matter if there are only a few of us left? Why wasn't this done to the Zormites when they had the similar problem of "hardly any members"?

TrueHeaT 01-01-2002 03:27 PM

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That is not the point, he is pointing the finger at the credibility and state of the other kingdoms, morels and ways do not matter when there is no one to share it, Samurai is as much a part of the kingdoms as Dustari and Pirate crew and Zormite, and if they canno't uphold the conditions so other people can rp as samurai than it needs to be fixed.

I really haven't got a clue what that means =\
maybe it's because I'm not on Graal much

ZanderX 01-01-2002 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by Lugie
But how does it effect the other kingdoms in the first place? What does it matter if there are only a few of us left? Why wasn't this done to the Zormites when they had the similar problem of "hardly any members"?

Because they fixed themselves.

Lugie 01-01-2002 03:29 PM

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I really haven't got a clue what that means =\
maybe it's because I'm not on Graal much

I think what he's getting at is that we aren't recruiting enough *****s and mindless idiots. I hope that was not redundant.

Lugie 01-01-2002 03:30 PM

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Because they fixed themselves.

That only answered the least rellivant of my questions.

TrueHeaT 01-01-2002 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by Lugie


I think what he's getting at is that we aren't recruiting enough *****s and mindless idiots. I hope that was not redundant.

Ahh. I get it.

Whitey1 01-01-2002 03:30 PM

you guys lost all your members when you cleaned the list...my tag got delete and i joined Zormite

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 03:33 PM

out of all the guilds, i actually respected the samurai. they only recruited people who knew how to rp and weren't brainless or only wanted a title or tag to show for. even if they didn't have 40 members, they were still powerful in their own unity

ZanderX 01-01-2002 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by Lugie


That only answered the least rellivant of my questions.

I'll go through it more in detail for you. :)

It effects the other Kingdoms because if there are no Samurai, or very few, it does not propose a good RPing environment. Samurai cannot participate nor can it effectively alter the RPing world which it was designed to fit into (which it does nicely.)

It matters if there are only a few of you because then, when there are very few, then it as if there are only three Kingdoms, because Samurai has little or no participation and aren't there to join in and RP with us.

And, like I said, Zormites didn't have this same fate because they fixed themselves before someone had to do something.

ZanderX 01-01-2002 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by Kasuagi
out of all the guilds, i actually respected the samurai. they only recruited people who knew how to rp and weren't brainless or only wanted a title or tag to show for. even if they didn't have 40 members, they were still powerful in their own unity
I respected Samurai from the beginning, I always have, and I always will. It was the first Kingdom that I wanted to be in before I was recruited, pretty much unwillingly, into Dustari by Birdbird.

Most, if not all, Dustari members know how to RP to some degree. They may not be "perfect" or the "best", but they can still role play...and that's what counts.

TrueHeaT 01-01-2002 03:35 PM

Samurai will participate in events when it needs to and when it can. You can't expect every kingdom to be like teams in a soccer leauge, it just doesn't work like that.
And might I remind you, in the kingdom games Samurai took home the most trophies, with Gameo and I dominating the events :)

Whitey1 01-01-2002 03:35 PM

we fixed ourselfs by getting a new emporer...samurai should get a good emporer then they will be all better

psihunter 01-01-2002 03:36 PM

With every action there is a reaction

But anyways

Dante I think your taking this a little to far..Samurai is about honor but you know what..you make it sound like its completly dead! Samurai didn't have the spirit and viture which you so crave...It was in you...and now your abandoning it as though it was a log in a field of evergreen...fear is your only allie and it kills you!

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT
Samurai will participate in events when it needs to and when it can. You can't expect every kingdom to be like teams in a soccer leauge, it just doesn't work like that.
And might I remind you, in the kingdom games Samurai took home the most trophies, with Gameo and I dominating the events :)

like i said, it's the unity that counts. just because your not the strongest doesn't mean your weakest

ZanderX 01-01-2002 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT
Samurai will participate in events when it needs to and when it can. You can't expect every kingdom to be like teams in a soccer leauge, it just doesn't work like that.
And might I remind you, in the kingdom games Samurai took home the most trophies, with Gameo and I dominating the events :)


Yes, that is true. :) I was not talking as much as events go but in general RPing life.

It's very hard for us to RP with Samurai when there are none on, you know?

TrueHeaT 01-01-2002 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX



Yes, that is true. :) I was not talking as much as events go but in general RPing life.

It's very hard for us to RP with Samurai when there are none on, you know?

Well then don't RP with us unless we're on. It's not hard :p

psihunter 01-01-2002 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT
Samurai will participate in events when it needs to and when it can. You can't expect every kingdom to be like teams in a soccer leauge, it just doesn't work like that.
And might I remind you, in the kingdom games Samurai took home the most trophies, with Gameo and I dominating the events :)

Right now the Pirates currently hold the most trophies (5 trophies)

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX


I respected Samurai from the beginning, I always have, and I always will. It was the first Kingdom that I wanted to be in before I was recruited, pretty much unwillingly, into Dustari by Birdbird.

Most, if not all, Dustari members know how to RP to some degree. They may not be "perfect" or the "best", but they can still role play...and that's what counts.

yes, i agree. the only kingdom i'll ever want to join is samurai, i'll even join it under a new emperor. i'd be dishonoring the true samurai spirit if i didn't

dustari has some good rpers, i'll give you that! it seems there are a couple of bad seeds though. you know how that goes, one seed can rotten the rest... err, something like that


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