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Olorin 12-11-2001 12:11 AM

Okay, I left a message for Stefan in the G2k2 forum so he should see it and hopefully remove the server or suspend it as soon as he possibly can.

Geovanie Legend 12-11-2001 12:38 AM

Good ole Olorin, always there when ya need him :)
Thanks Olorin, we all owe you a big thanks at the very least for your efforts.

adam 12-11-2001 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Olorin
Okay, I left a message for Stefan in the G2k2 forum so he should see it and hopefully remove the server or suspend it as soon as he possibly can.
Olorin is the best :cool:

Scorpz 12-11-2001 01:02 AM

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Quite alot of you are thinking of your self, You all have p2p so you can go on 4 more servers then other people, I played unholy nation right after graal classic reset everyones account, I really did like it there, Alot of you are for getting that people want to see stuff like that, It makes them feel cool and big but deep down you know some pixels will not get to them, I have played bad games like trill kill and I have never felt like I have to kill some one, bottom line is unholy nation is a great server and if you think you can shut it down just because you dont like it then think again,

Slaktmaster 12-11-2001 01:07 AM

You don't smoke weed on a good Graal server. :(

Just get LiquidIce to fix it if you go there a lot and nothing bad will happen. :)

TDO2000 12-11-2001 01:22 AM

OMG I have never heared so much bull**** in just one thread *getting his medicin*
Guys THIS IS A GAME there is a little difference between reallity smoking weed and "smoking" a bunch of pixel...
OMG if Stefans takes down UN for this reason....
And yay oh holy sh*** there is some word that has do to something with SEEEECCCKKKKKSSSSS OMG NOOOOO OUR CHILDREN WILL BE BAD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO X_x
in most movies there is violence (looking for stuff like Power Ranger or DBZ) but if children watch something like this it's ok...
think about this guys >=(

Spark910 12-11-2001 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by Geovanie Legend
OMG I don't believe this, their even getting away with using Gani's on a free server.
Gee I wonder what else is wrong with UN

I may be worng but goldielocks Ganis arent illegal on none P2p servers
Multi-directional Ganis thats a different thing so check if the gani is Multi-Dir. then its illegal.

Faheria_LAT3 12-11-2001 01:50 AM

When you have idiots like Liquid Ice running a server, what do you expect?

Geovanie Legend 12-11-2001 01:59 AM

Giltwist writes:

when I try to register it crashes my IE.

My two cents worth: Its not about content, its about intent. On other servers ale/beer is commonplace because that is appropriate for the overall theme of graal. However, from what I read, that isn't what is the case on UN. It seems to me that UN's intent is to just let people do whatever they want. The problem with this is that Graal is not the proper media for those avenues of interest. If you want nudity, go to a porn site. If you want legalization of drugs look up the orginization called NORML. Can I have my penny now? Wait a minute, somebody is making a penny.

Faheria_LAT3 12-11-2001 02:02 AM

Re: Re: UN.. the right thing?
 
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Originally posted by nyghtGT

shouldn't the name 'Unholy Nation' give you hints about stuff it may have ? Just lay off ...
At Everyone:
Dont hate on servers that are more populated than your own or that people care more about than yours ...
besides, if you wanted to make everything perfect for your 12 tear old brothers you would have to get rid of sword fighting, bombs, beer, super jolts, bows, and a bunch of stuff ... Stop being such a weird, well weirder, person just becauase you have a kid ...

Gyahahahaha, you are such an idiot. Unholy Nation sucks, the levels suck, it's inapropriate, and not to mention it has npcs that mimic the use of illegal drugs. Mmm we hate it because it is more populated? I love it because it holds all the idiots there, like you. I hate it because it gives Graala bad name, just like almost all the others on the list.

TDO2000 12-11-2001 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3


Gyahahahaha, you are such an idiot. Unholy Nation sucks, the levels suck, it's inapropriate, and not to mention it has npcs that mimic the use of illegal drugs. Mmm we hate it because it is more populated? I love it because it holds all the idiots there, like you. I hate it because it gives Graala bad name, just like almost all the others on the list.

@illegal drugs: go to Amsterdam there u will be able to smoke weed and it's legal... :rolleyes:

Spark910 12-11-2001 02:07 AM

suppose some things should be changed on it.

Faheria_LAT3 12-11-2001 02:09 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: UN.. the right thing?
 
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Originally posted by TDO2000

@illegal drugs: go to Amsterdam there u will be able to smoke weed and it's legal... :rolleyes:

Oh dear, it's legal to smoke in Amsterdam so it's ok to smoke it even though it's illegal just about everywhere else in the USA?

adam 12-11-2001 02:35 AM

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Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3


Oh dear, it's legal to smoke in Amsterdam so it's ok to smoke it even though it's illegal just about everywhere else in the USA?


I believe Amsterdam is another country silly.


There are at least a few countries where if you order "coke" in the restourant they'll bring you cocaine....

TDO2000 12-11-2001 02:40 AM

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Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3


Oh dear, it's legal to smoke in Amsterdam so it's ok to smoke it even though it's illegal just about everywhere else in the USA?

u did not get me...
wanted to say: show tolerance...
U don't have to smoke weed in real life and because u can see it in Graal u and noone else will start smoking...
there are many films using drugs in it as a funny elemtent and these films aren't illegal too...
and in graal this are only some silly pixel telling u "Oh u smoked weed, oh u are *high* ohhh BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDD"
there is a SMALL difference between smoking in real life and silly pixel smoking meant as a joke...

vovavziggy 12-11-2001 02:47 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: UN.. the right thing?
 
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Originally posted by TDO2000

@illegal drugs: go to Amsterdam there u will be able to smoke weed and it's legal... :rolleyes:

I live in Amsterdam =P
I think it's safer here then on UN

Psyker 12-11-2001 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TDO2000
OMG I have never heared so much bull**** in just one thread *getting his medicin*
Guys THIS IS A GAME there is a little difference between reallity smoking weed and "smoking" a bunch of pixel...
OMG if Stefans takes down UN for this reason....
And yay oh holy sh*** there is some word that has do to something with SEEEECCCKKKKKSSSSS OMG NOOOOO OUR CHILDREN WILL BE BAD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO X_x
in most movies there is violence (looking for stuff like Power Ranger or DBZ) but if children watch something like this it's ok...
think about this guys >=(

stupidity meter is off the bloody scale.

anyway, part 2 of my adventures...

i went into a simple predefined castle type building, which turned out to be a 3 level cave. at the end, i was warped into a cave with no entries or exits, and lizardon baddies i simply destroyed.
(whoopdeedoo, my favourite! if compusdied!) after i killed them, i was warped into an area with a failed attempt at a fountain, or something. then i went a few screens left, up, and found 120 rupees and a superbomb in chests.

please correct this server, or have it taken down :o

LiquidIce00 12-11-2001 03:51 AM

actually that was all taken out, the drug house. I think phaze bar is there but all it has is like Ecstacy thing that u can buy and touch it heals much like beer.
and the other things were taken out. Like the drug house.
and why not come talk to me if you have a problem with my server?

plus why not whine about servers that have copyright materials ?
and tell me NPC Name and I will remove like I did to every other one.

Faheria_LAT3 12-11-2001 03:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by TDO2000

u did not get me...
wanted to say: show tolerance...
U don't have to smoke weed in real life and because u can see it in Graal u and noone else will start smoking...
there are many films using drugs in it as a funny elemtent and these films aren't illegal too...
and in graal this are only some silly pixel telling u "Oh u smoked weed, oh u are *high* ohhh BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDD"
there is a SMALL difference between smoking in real life and silly pixel smoking meant as a joke...

Tolerance? Why don't you show some intelligence? It may be just a character smoking pixels, but the message it puts forth towards the younger people is far different. This game is intended for all ages. I'm sure Stefan will disagree with your opinion. Tolerance...gah. :rolleyes:

LiquidIce00 12-11-2001 04:01 AM

I do many things for the players,
like I upload their graphics and all. If somebody sends me a "*****" shield or whatever you said , I will remove it , I dont have time to go thru every single thing and validate them. But they are easy to get rid of.
I got rid of that joint shield thing. And the NPC I need a name and it will be removed.

And for "Lame as hell" whats so bad about that?

Why not go complain to Stefan about how Graal has violence in it?
Maybe then he will make no weapons and no scripting and nothing so no1 can do anything.
This is just stupid. If you have any more things you want out of my server go ahead and list them.



Geovanie here are your weapons:
ArrowPouch
bomb
bow
Creature Egg
-daynight
Extras/Jump Rope
Extras/Renzoku Bird
Extras/Taylor Skill
Extras/Trent Rain Dance
Extras/UN Dance
Fishing Rod
Hammer
Lightning Storm
Mining Axe
Pet System
Super Spin Attack
superbomb
Turn Tables
-un system
WarpRings/Conner Warp
WarpRings/DeltaCity Warp
WarpRings/Neo Town Warp
WarpRings/TownCenter Warp
WarpRings/Trent City Warp
Wooden Bow

what is wrong about that? I dontsee anything illegal

Also our ganis are all legal, none are 4 way, we dont even have 4 single dir ganis that make up a 4 way gani. and CLASSIC has that!

_AcidIce_ 12-11-2001 04:01 AM

you people crack me up.

LiquidIce00 12-11-2001 04:07 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
I find it ironic that a PW admin or whatever they are called came to N-Pulse so many times telling me to take this off and take that off because it was illegal, so I did....Now all this stuff is on UN???
Unbelievable!
It isnt fit for kids to play at all :grrr:

Moon Goddess (N-Pulse Co-Owner)

Uhmm..
Yes and I greatly appreciate the fact that I was trying to help you guys when I was talking to Moon God about his FTP problems and how he should deal with it and get things worked out for your server. Thanks a lot for the help back, greatly appreciated.

mubeen2k 12-11-2001 04:17 AM

Leave UN aone donthem caus it is a goo server. If they have drugs and sex they have it o-well Most people on here prob do tem anyways and it is a game supose to be fun. Sto *****enso much.

Olorin 12-11-2001 04:32 AM

Look, what you people think is acceptable is not usually good business practices and also may not be acceptable by the staff of Graal On-Line.. think of all the policies that Vangel had come into effect to help cut down on people swearing and just swearing alone! (note: of which I am in total support of)

LiquidIce00 12-11-2001 04:37 AM

Ill repeat myself..
I took all the listed stuff down, except for the "Lame as hell"
because its nothing bad. Hell is not a bad word, its a place =). If I cant say Hell then I might as well not say Afghanistan ;D!
and if anyone has any problems with anything else pm me on forums and I will gladly take it down if it is illegal in any sort.

LiquidIce00 12-11-2001 04:58 AM

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Originally posted by Slaktmaster
Um...all this stuff is on the server. :(

But free servers are allowed to use ganis at a certain degree, only ganis with single direction. I think the PW staff got it wrong when they put up the rule "no multi-framed ganis" on their site.

And Liquid also uses the birds from Zelda 3 and says he is allowed to use then because "he found it in his webgifs".

:(:(

those bird things i dont know which they are.
never played the game , and any gif i use i either get my staff to make or take them right out of my Graal folder (and my Graal has gifs that was in the gif pack of 1.41 or something)

kp_p2p 12-11-2001 05:04 AM

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Originally posted by LiquidIce00
Ill repeat myself..
I took all the listed stuff down, except for the "Lame as hell"
because its nothing bad. Hell is not a bad word, its a place =). If I cant say Hell then I might as well not say Afghanistan ;D!
and if anyone has any problems with anything else pm me on forums and I will gladly take it down if it is illegal in any sort.

they sya hell in the bible, its not a bad word if you use it as a place. Just not like what the hell. I like your server.. people just need to stop crying, dont like it then dont got here!

kp_p2p 12-11-2001 05:16 AM

if parents have problems with there child looking at this and thinking there going to do it.. then there not raising them well. My parents raised me well and I know right form wrong. I see my friends smoke, I watch people smoke weed, I been offered it, I have played violent video games my hole life, I own a gun, I use to play with fake guns, I have watched porn. Do I kill people? Do I Smoke weed? Do I go out and have sex with everyone I see? No I'm sorry I dont. So teach your children better and no one will have to worry about these type of things.

Not saying your bad parents or your parents are bad. There just not teaching you right or something. Because my family sure as hell knows from right and wrong and when to not do ****. Not saying my parents are great neither.

enishi-2001 12-11-2001 05:38 AM

smoking is bad and so is that server TAKE IT DOWN!

LiquidIce00 12-11-2001 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kp_p2p
if parents have problems with there child looking at this and thinking there going to do it.. then there not raising them well. My parents raised me well and I know right form wrong. I see my friends smoke, I watch people smoke weed, I been offered it, I have played violent video games my hole life, I own a gun, I use to play with fake guns, I have watched porn. Do I kill people? Do I Smoke weed? Do I go out and have sex with everyone I see? No I'm sorry I dont. So teach your children better and no one will have to worry about these type of things.

Not saying your bad parents or your parents are bad. There just not teaching you right or something. Because my family sure as hell knows from right and wrong and when to not do ****. Not saying my parents are great neither.

totally agree ^_^


also for the unhappy people, I have put in my system that if you have that shield it will set to the current shield of your level .
like if you have the joint shield and your shield level is 2, your shield will auto set to shield2.gif and display that shield is disabled.

Torankusu 12-11-2001 05:55 AM

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Originally posted by Geovanie Legend
Konidias that's about all I would expect from you is a wise crack.. instead of doing something about it you'd rather take it as a joke.

Nice to know the Graal staff are mature people who know how to handle things.

?
He can't do anything about it.

Who added it, and has it been removed?

LiquidIce00 12-11-2001 05:56 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
?
He can't do anything about it.

Who added it, and has it been removed?

yes all the stuff was removed.
Well all I know of,
and I think it was some player level with drug things in it.
I will take anything down that needs to be asap

Torankusu 12-11-2001 05:58 AM

Sorry, moon goddess. People usually tell me the specifics (level, and images, etc,) so that I can go check it easier. Most of the time the people have the npcs and such in staff levels which are inaccessable. If I had known about this earlier, it would not have been a problem.

LiquidIce00 12-11-2001 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu
Sorry, moon goddess. People usually tell me the specifics (level, and images, etc,) so that I can go check it easier. Most of the time the people have the npcs and such in staff levels which are inaccessable. If I had known about this earlier, it would not have been a problem.
phazesodashop.graal I believe was the one with the hoe .the other levels I dont know but the npcs had been deleted and removed it was in some drug house near where the hoe place is.

Psyker 12-11-2001 06:13 AM

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Originally posted by LiquidIce00


totally agree ^_^


also for the unhappy people, I have put in my system that if you have that shield it will set to the current shield of your level .
like if you have the joint shield and your shield level is 2, your shield will auto set to shield2.gif and display that shield is disabled.

why not just take the shield off of your server?
oh, and thanks for fixing all the bad things on it.

LiquidIce00 12-11-2001 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Psyker

why not just take the shield off of your server?
oh, and thanks for fixing all the bad things on it.

I have, but if you currently are wearing it, it wont take it off. This way no one will have it.
and im waiting for the names of those npc's so I can change their code to delete itself

kp_p2p 12-11-2001 06:29 AM

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Originally posted by LiquidIce00


I have, but if you currently are wearing it, it wont take it off. This way no one will have it.
and im waiting for the names of those npc's so I can change their code to delete itself

Your server sounded cool with all them things there.. :( I will still check it out I guess. Maybe I can find things to help with :)

I guess it would be wise to change them, wouldn't want to see peoples player worlds be tookin away because of people whining about dumb things. But if thats the way stefan is also, you don't have much of a choice. :D

Psyker 12-11-2001 06:35 AM

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Originally posted by LiquidIce00


I have, but if you currently are wearing it, it wont take it off. This way no one will have it.
and im waiting for the names of those npc's so I can change their code to delete itself

oh, okay. silly me.

LiquidIce00 12-11-2001 06:37 AM

I just dont understand why Geovanie goes do something like this to get some1 else introuble..
he must hate me or something ..
could of just talked to me and I would of fixed it..
instead of making a big deal and showing "kids" who are on the forums drugs and other things.. hypocrit?

LilbrojX 12-11-2001 06:45 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
What's worse is that you're smoking weed next to a playground! :p
LOL


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