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vergil 06-13-2001 12:19 AM

Nai let me explain this to you.

I THINK Neoknight is trying to say that if someone uses GameTrainer of Magic Trainer creator, his NPC script will detect it. How is this possible? Well, if the trainer say... gives you 10000 rupees, its very easy for an NPC script to check for his rupee amount every 10 seconds and if it jumps from 0 to 10,000 rupees in 10 seconds, the NPC knows something is wrong, and the player's probably cheating to get that money. It will check for other values... like walking speed and sword power... and if it does think your cheating, it'll place you in jail or whatever punishment it sees fit.

Nai i think you have got this totally wrong.,.. this has nothing to do with what your describing..

Nai 06-13-2001 12:20 AM

If you have hacking tools you wont get a job...

Kaimetsu 06-13-2001 12:22 AM

Gah, then why did you talk about "MFC and GT code"?

ANYWAY, you shouldn't bother with things like that. Stefan will include them himself if they become necessary.

vergil 06-13-2001 12:24 AM

yeah i was wondering what he was talking about encrypting the code.. what..? heh.

T-Squad 06-13-2001 01:01 AM

all ive got to say is:
ne0knight is a fool...

i scripted my day/night is about 15 minutes 2 days ago, using 0 NPC Server functions, but it will still work for all players...you know what is called? you are probably to much of an idiot to figure something this basic out...its called timevar....oh and gscript only reads gscript..not programming you fool....bank system is also easy to make...
for one thing, i wouldnt question Kai on his scripting knowledge, I myself can by far surpass this ninja guy, and kai can at this time easily surpass me......kai has mad tile altering skills for one, and is the 3rd best scripter i know of...Stefan being first and kyle0654 being second....anyway ne0night you sound like a damn n00b so please shut up you are very annoying, you are just making your server look bad

Kaimetsu 06-13-2001 01:04 AM

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Originally posted by T-Squad
kai has mad tile altering skills for one, and is the 3rd best scripter i know of...Stefan being first and kyle0654 being second....
Dang... looks like I've still got some beating to do...

activeconvict 06-13-2001 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by Nai
Are you going to hack 2k1 considering you have GT and MTC?
Almost impossible with NPC Server.

activeconvict 06-13-2001 01:51 AM

And actually Tyhm is probably the 2nd best...

Kaimetsu 06-13-2001 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by activeconvict
And actually Tyhm is probably the 2nd best...
I actually kinda hate it when non-scripters go around saying who is the best. In truth, the only people capable of gauging who is better than who are the expert scripters themselves.

And even then, great scripters don't necessarily know about other scripters. I don't know how good Tyhm is, for example, because I'd need to see some things that he has achieved. I'm really fuzzy on who exactly is the best, and certainly too fuzzy to make a definitive ordered list.

activeconvict 06-13-2001 02:01 AM

I never said he was, I said he probably is, he's Graal Classics Lead Scripter last I knew.

Kaimetsu 06-13-2001 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by activeconvict
I never said he was, I said he probably is, he's Graal Classics Lead Scripter last I knew.
True, but that doesn't say anything in particular. Sure, it says he's good but can it assign him an arbitrary position? Nah. Plus, what about the NewWorlders? I bet they've got people even better than Stefan.

activeconvict 06-13-2001 02:06 AM

They probably do, I know of a couple people that are in the New World Team, but I'm not going to leak it or tell anyone. Loriel's a pretty good scripter too. I script a little, I'm not the best, I need to take some C++ classes.

Kaimetsu 06-13-2001 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by activeconvict
They probably do, I know of a couple people that are in the New World Team, but I'm not going to leak it or tell anyone. Loriel's a pretty good scripter too. I script a little, I'm not the best, I need to take some C++ classes.
C++ isn't necessary. If anything, Graal is a good way to learn C++.

Huggles 06-13-2001 02:12 AM

Update:

I decided and I hope the crew looks at this

We will use a different system for NPCW's list

Backpacks...... Like the trade system you will choose what elvel or what kind of weapon you will use and it will use it.....

Say Trade to drop it or sell it

There will be
Clothes Backpacks, Weapons, Work or Accesories, spells, and etc. =-)


Kaimetsu 06-13-2001 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by Huggles

We will use a different system for NPCW's list

Copout! That feature isn't new.

Huggles 06-13-2001 02:22 AM

I dont mind if its not new I just thought of it and how it would benefit my world......

T-Squad 06-13-2001 03:20 AM

new system for NPCWs???? did i miss a graal update...?

CrazedMerlin 06-13-2001 04:05 AM

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So far we got as our crew. We hope you can join us!
Goku (JF)
Kain
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Captain USA
Vermain
Merlin
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Devine (Baddies)
Draco
Beowulf
yay

CrazedMerlin 06-13-2001 04:14 AM

Kami=good scripter, very good I once doubted him, and i was wrong.
Neonight you are a fool, my prediction for your server is another world with 700+ generated levels with random flower tiles inserted.
A 700 line bank script is crazy it can be done in 50.
When stefan sees the need to prevent trainers he adds a way to prevent them in the next version of graal exe.

Munkey 06-13-2001 05:53 AM

not everything in graal can be encripted. Strings, variables, over the head stuff. Some of that can be encripted, i seen my friend do it WITH gscript.

grim_squeaker_x 06-13-2001 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by freddyfox


If you've ever seen X's weather system, you'll know where my hate comes from.

Yes I really need to change that once I have the time, but I first have to complete our super secret project thingumajig, then I'll start reducing the lag of the weather system (Which wasn't scripted by me but by The Night Ninja and was uploaded by our owner without asking first :rolleyes: ).

grim_squeaker_x 06-13-2001 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by T-Squad
new system for NPCWs???? did i miss a graal update...?
No, it's actually been scriptable ever since the callweapon index,flag; command was added.

XilosTinsu 06-14-2001 02:35 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight
-_- What's so funny? He is! Scripted the d/n out of scratch and made a weather system. Are their any other servers with weather (not just Sylvesters like on G2k1 but actual rain) ??? Nope. Sorry don't see em.
SK Made a weather system, I don't imagine it's that complicated, I think I Could make one if I wanted, the Day/Night Script isn't that tough, I've made one, so it can't be that hard. Flamethrowers aren't that special either, Shadow Dragons has one. And 700 lines for a bank system isn't a good thing, those aren't that complicated either, You can make a perfectly good bank system in 50-100 lines. Even with anti-cheating etc, it shouldn't be more then 150 max. A weather system that has the weather from a city nearby is impossible, no way could someone make it so that it actually works.

Brad0629 06-14-2001 03:11 AM

Hey Neo
 
Hey neo

im still working for your server right?!

I know it dont got alot to do with this topic but im just wondering...

also ive heard lots about new servers...




~BRaD~

PW Projects Team

Huggles 06-14-2001 04:14 AM

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Adding on


I will soon add a moon then I think we put stuff in and then other stuff ^_^

XilosTinsu 06-14-2001 05:34 AM

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Originally posted by Gspeed2000
:D Yes ToT has weather...
I just need to add the bit where it can dynamically change the amount of drops easily (really easy to do) and the part where the rain moves from level to level (alittle more tricky but I could manage it).

Rain, snow, thunderstorms, clouds... uhm what else... maybe tornado but after I get all other weather working correctly.

LOL Tornados would be AWESOME, have it sweep you off to a random level, and destroy houses.

Aknts 06-14-2001 03:52 PM

Are you saying like the backpack thing like if you click the bag it goes to another screen liek the qq screen and it has different NPC in it or somethign I don't understand and if that is what your talking about how would you script that?

grim_squeaker_x 06-14-2001 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by Huggles
Adding on


I will soon add a moon then I think we put stuff in and then other stuff ^_^

That island to the northeast looks a lot like a dragon.

Kaimetsu 06-14-2001 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by grim_squeaker_x
That island to the northeast looks a lot like a dragon.
And the top-left one looks like a rhino in a brown hat being sick.

grim_squeaker_x 06-14-2001 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


And the top-left one looks like a rhino in a brown hat being sick.

The bottom left one looks like a brown ball.

Kaimetsu 06-14-2001 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by grim_squeaker_x
The bottom left one looks like a brown ball.
The bottom right one just looks like a random landmass.

grim_squeaker_x 06-14-2001 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


The bottom right one just looks like a random landmass.

The middle ones look like a big and a small island.

Kaimetsu 06-14-2001 08:29 PM

The bits where there isn't land looks like water.

grim_squeaker_x 06-14-2001 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
The bits where there isn't land looks like water.
The bits where there isn't land or water look like nothing.

Kaimetsu 06-14-2001 08:33 PM

The bit right at the top looks like an Internet Explorer address bar.

grim_squeaker_x 06-14-2001 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
The bit right at the top looks like an Internet Explorer address bar.
The bit behind it looks like a desktop.

Kaimetsu 06-14-2001 08:37 PM

If I squint and turn my head at a funny angle, then I can see a taskbar at the bottom.

grim_squeaker_x 06-14-2001 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
If I squint and turn my head at a funny angle, then I can see a taskbar at the bottom.
If I point and click my mouse in the bottom left corner I can see another menu.

Kaimetsu 06-14-2001 08:40 PM

If I click the bottom item on that menu, the world of Nothar falls into a black hole!

grim_squeaker_x 06-14-2001 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
If I click the bottom item on that menu, the world of Nothar falls into a black hole!
If I push a button near the place where I saw the menu the whole of creation starts over again!


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