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Tim_Rocks

06-08-2013 01:08 AM

On a side note; I would like some kind of use of Mac's notification system for PM's on the client or RC messages.

Jcs1919

06-14-2013 10:06 AM

Ooh please dont disable graalv5, I can't play piano on era with v6 because numbers keys doesn't work.. i reported this bug twice long ago but no one can fix it

Twinny

06-14-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jcs1919 (Post 1719231)

Ooh please dont disable graalv5, I can't play piano on era with v6 because numbers keys doesn't work.. i reported this bug twice long ago but no one can fix it

Somehow I think that would be a rather easy bug to fix so disabling v5 would kind of force Eras hand into fixing it

Jcs1919

06-14-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1719233)

Somehow I think that would be a rather easy bug to fix so disabling v5 would kind of force Eras hand into fixing it

I'm not sure because the problem is only for azerty keyboards and not many people use it x_x, I think it's working fine for qwerty's

WonderBread

06-14-2013 08:18 PM

It's ridiculous how bugged and incompatible v6 is. A new Graal client has never been released with this many issues. I find it absurd that an "up"grade to this client is being forced.

Admins

06-14-2013 10:05 PM

Bugged? It's the most stable and fast version ever.

Tim_Rocks

06-14-2013 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WonderBread (Post 1719254)

It's ridiculous how bugged and incompatible v6 is. A new Graal client has never been released with this many issues. I find it absurd that an "up"grade to this client is being forced.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1719257)

Bugged? It's the most stable and fast version ever.

Yes, this is true. BUT in certain circumstances, it's horrible and unbearable to play Graal. I'm not sure what causes it either, cbk1994 and I have tried testing what causes the issue but we couldn't find the source.

Fulg0reSama

06-14-2013 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1719257)

Bugged? It's the most stable and fast version ever.

What Tim said, but aesthetically, it's one of the ugliest.

GodlyAmbitions

06-16-2013 04:10 AM

its the fast version? i was more stable with dialup back then than 100 mbps cable connection right now

Tim_Rocks

06-16-2013 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GodlyAmbitions (Post 1719300)

its the fast version? i was more stable with dialup back then than 100 mbps cable connection right now

Lol, the good ole' days.

Gos_pira

06-17-2013 12:08 PM

I've played v6 on both windows and on linux, and the windows version plays much more horrible than on linux. I have no idea why. I ran it on the same computer so the hardware can't be the issue.

fowlplay4

06-17-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1719257)

Bugged? It's the most stable and fast version ever.

Just because you say it is doesn't mean there's not outliers and exceptions where it's not. In order to properly address the issue you need to make useful logs or debugging information that players can provide without requiring interaction with server staff.

It would also help if you could document debugging tools for developers so we can actually understand the debugging information and logs better and be able address issues brought up by them.

scriptless

06-17-2013 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1719258)

My client is never buggy... I'm not exactly sure what causes the buggy'ness' of the client. Currently I'm on a Mac and I seriously haven't had one issue. On the other hand my Windows 7 computer is just horrible. 10 FPS, constant lag (Internet service provider isn't the cause either).

Yes, this is true. BUT in certain circumstances, it's horrible and unbearable to play Graal. I'm not sure what causes it either, cbk1994 and I have tried testing what causes the issue but we couldn't find the source.

I have tested V6 since the beta was out. I have used Windows 7, Windows 8, Ubuntu Linux, and Mac OS X 10.8.3. I think my mac currently runs graal the smoothest. But I never had any problems that were caused by the v6, with the exception of gani movies breaking, but thats fixable by removing some spaces.

WonderBread

06-17-2013 10:10 PM

Actually, without UDP support it's the slowest client as of yet in that regard. TCP processes data much less efficiently, and every other client (as far as I can remember) has had UDP support.

fowlplay4

06-17-2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WonderBread (Post 1719362)

Actually, without UDP support it's the slowest client as of yet in that regard. TCP processes data much less efficiently, and every other client (as far as I can remember) has had UDP support.

It's not UDP support, it's P2P support which connects other clients to each other using UDP. Graal doesn't have proper client to server UDP communication currently.

scriptless

06-19-2013 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WonderBread (Post 1719362)

Actually, without UDP support it's the slowest client as of yet in that regard. TCP processes data much less efficiently, and every other client (as far as I can remember) has had UDP support.

This feature always caused me lag so I never used it. People did nothing but skip around on my screen like it was a joke. Guess not everyone got to benefit from it.

cbk1994

06-19-2013 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scriptless (Post 1719395)

This feature always caused me lag so I never used it. People did nothing but skip around on my screen like it was a joke. Guess not everyone got to benefit from it.

If your UDP is misconfigured, then yeah, it could cause problems.

Admins

06-21-2013 01:46 PM

v6 is now the one and only version :cool:

fowlplay4

06-21-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1719484)

v6 is now the one and only version :cool:

haha suck it UN sparring community.

Starfire2001

06-21-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1719487)

haha suck it UN sparring community.

Jcs1919

06-21-2013 10:50 PM

Woot somebody fixed the instrument bug =)

GodlyAmbitions

06-22-2013 05:58 AM

woot the f10 pause abuse ENDS NOW

WonderBread

06-22-2013 06:51 PM

Sparring may be ruined, but at least I won't know since I can't even log into the client now. v6 apparently doesn't actually work on my incredibly common and up to date Windows 7.

fowlplay4

06-22-2013 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WonderBread (Post 1719550)

Sparring may be ruined, but at least I won't know since I can't even log into the client now. v6 apparently doesn't actually work on my incredibly common and up to date Windows 7.

Make a new Graal folder and disable any AV that may interfere.

Crono1508

06-23-2013 11:49 AM

Thanks for the good times everybody.

Cubical

06-27-2013 03:39 AM

Atleast people can start using all the available body colors now. I hardly ever see anyone using anything but the default 12 or so colors.

Tavelate

06-27-2013 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Starfire2001 (Post 1719489)

That actually made me shed a tear.

Thinking of all those good times of my life, in UN spar.

RIP in peace.

alskdjfhg

06-28-2013 03:26 AM

Well, as long as Graal doesn't have proper client to server UDP communication, PVP is more dead than ever. Graal is just one step closer to being a chat room.

GodlyAmbitions

06-28-2013 08:23 AM

i've heard from the community that you could STILL pause by holding the x button on the top of the client, i think that should be disabled.

and also some people oddly have ridiculous fps lag with v6 despite a fairly decent computer, so we've lost a few players... anyone know what could be the problem to this? if you could run every game with max settings i think it shouldn't have a problem running an old game...

dmhabe

07-01-2013 05:02 PM

goodbye sparring

Shaun

07-02-2013 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhabe (Post 1720104)

goodbye sparring

They said the same thing when GServer was changed from 1.28 rev2 to 1.3.

Pandar

07-02-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 1720115)

They said the same thing when GServer was changed from 1.28 rev2 to 1.3.

Except, this time, sparring is actually pretty much dead. The UPD bullshit combined with Stefan moving server locations has pretty much made sparring a guessing game. When everybody has 150ms ping (opposed to some people having 30-70 on the old servers) and UPD is all jazzed up, sparring is just too frustrating for a lot of us to even bother with.

Admins

07-06-2013 08:55 PM

Can you check if Kingdoms is less laggy for you?

Tim_Rocks

07-07-2013 12:52 AM

I remember when I used to get 20 ms; ah the good ole' days.

Admins

07-07-2013 08:42 AM

Changed the scripted RC to not replace ' with ''

BlueMelon

07-07-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1720298)

Changed the scripted RC to not replace ' with ''

:fro:

Hiro	07-09-2013 04:12 PM

thank you for killing any chance of me coming back to graal

rip sparring

Brady_Graal

11-08-2013 12:26 AM

iPhone sparring is laggier than v5, but it's bearable compared to v6
it's the only place left to spar

my ping on UN is up to 125 now for some reason

Jakov_the_Jakovasaur

11-08-2013 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brady_Graal (Post 1723726)

iPhone sparring is laggier than v5, but it's bearable compared to v6
it's the only place left to spar

my ping on UN is up to 125 now for some reason

Tim_Rocks

11-09-2013 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brady_Graal (Post 1723726)

my ping on UN is up to 125 now for some reason

Graal v7 should fix the issues you're experiencing.

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