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Crono 04-28-2013 11:55 PM

can we stop playing on wooden servers already? zod just lagged out.

-HateD- 04-29-2013 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1717082)
It always does. You know the ms in ping measurement stands for milliseconds, right? Milliseconds it takes for a server to answer a client. The longer it takes for the answer packet to arrive at the client, the "laggier" it gets, naturally.

I don't think you're getting what I'm saying, but since you've never really played era as far as I know it would be hard to explain. I can have up to 300 ms and not "eat bullets" on other peoples screens because I have a strong connection. Players with bad connections (take one of the kids from the virgin islands Danne4Life who never goes under 1k ping) will almost always eat bullets and warp around the screen.

cbk1994 04-29-2013 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by -HateD- (Post 1717102)
I don't think you're getting what I'm saying, but since you've never really played era as far as I know it would be hard to explain. I can have up to 300 ms and not "eat bullets" on other peoples screens because I have a strong connection. Players with bad connections (take one of the kids from the virgin islands Danne4Life who never goes under 1k ping) will almost always eat bullets and warp around the screen.

I don't think you understand what latency is. There is no such thing as a "strong" connection.

-HateD- 04-29-2013 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1717104)
I don't think you understand what latency is. There is no such thing as a "strong" connection.

Any other idea how to explain high ms not equating to people eating?

smirt362 04-29-2013 07:53 AM

Your ping refers to how long it takes for a message from the server to reach your computer and back again. Mines so low because the server is basically an hour away from where I live.

In your example, it takes about 1 second for a message to get to Danne4Life's computer and back to the server. So the data about where he is currently and all that isn't instantaneous. It's why he jumps around a lot.

Ping is a measure of latency or drag in the spread of information in a system, in this case between the player's computer and the game server. It's basically a measure of how laggy you are.

Starfire2001 04-29-2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1716951)
Actually nothing has really been changed, the servers are still at the same place x-x

Whatever was done, everyone on UN is about 3x laggier than they were before the change.

Crow 04-29-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by -HateD- (Post 1717102)
I don't think you're getting what I'm saying, but since you've never really played era as far as I know it would be hard to explain.

Last time I checked, I had I believe around 1700+ hours of online time. Could be slightly off. Also, what Chris said.

-HateD- 04-29-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1717128)
Last time I checked, I had I believe around 1700+ hours of online time. Could be slightly off. Also, what Chris said.

You must not PK much then

Crow 04-29-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by -HateD- (Post 1717134)
You must not PK much then

I have, in the past. Quite a lot, actually. That has nothing to do with you not having a grasp of networking basics, though.

-HateD- 04-29-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1717135)
I have, in the past. Quite a lot, actually. That has nothing to do with you not having a grasp of networking basics, though.

You're not really making an argument here other than saying "you don't know what you're talking about therefore you're wrong"
From what I saw in the past you were a good scripter and did some cool work on era and other servers, but you're not proving anything. If you PK on Era and see the relationship between latency affecting gameplay it's not what you'd initially think. Intuitively, it makes sense that higher MS means that someone is going to eat bullets, warp, etc, but that's not the case. There really is no simple correlation between the two which is what I'm getting at. Hopefully you understand now.

xXziroXx 04-29-2013 10:57 PM

shoot() is clientsided, the only thing ms would do is affect how long after a player shoots that bullets will appear on your screen.

Crow 04-30-2013 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by -HateD- (Post 1717145)
There really is no simple correlation between the two which is what I'm getting at. Hopefully you understand now.

There has to be, as there is really no other way. As Ziro said, shoot() is a clientside function, and so are projectiles. Basically, once you shoot your gun, it takes roughly half your ping's time for the info to reach the server, then roughly half of each one's ping time to reach them. Once the projectile has appeared for another player, it can also hurt them. Depending on how long it took for it to appear, it'll be behind, since it will always appear at the position you shot it from. So if you see someone "eating", it's just because the projectile has not reached them yet on their screen. There's no magic involved here, just lag.

Crono 04-30-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by -HateD- (Post 1717145)
You're not really making an argument here other than saying "you don't know what you're talking about therefore you're wrong"

That's generally a pretty strong argument.

fowlplay4 04-30-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1717161)
That's generally a pretty strong argument.

you don't know what you're talking about, you're wrong.

Crono 05-01-2013 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1717176)
you don't know what you're talking about, you're wrong.

no u

Fulg0reSama 05-01-2013 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1717176)
you don't know what you're talking about, you're wrong.

Thou consorteth with men, though thou art man thyself!

smirt362 05-01-2013 05:08 PM

You're all wrong in all the right ways

devilsknite1 05-02-2013 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Starfire2001 (Post 1717127)
Whatever was done, everyone on UN is about 3x laggier than they were before the change.

Would like to have a server that isn't taking +/- 20 seconds for a NPC to update

cbk1994 05-02-2013 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by devilsknite1 (Post 1717256)
Would like to have a server that isn't taking +/- 20 seconds for a NPC to update

On the other side, though, half the time the NPC updates before you even press the button.

devilsknite1 05-02-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1717268)
On the other side, though, half the time the NPC updates before you even press the button.

Aaaahhhhh... a play on my poorly placed +/- I see :p

GodlyAmbitions 05-03-2013 07:14 AM

Yeah they really have to seperate Era,Un,Iphones with Zod and if possible move the server elsewhere, texas is horrible..

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1716476)
What?

she was jailed by a Graal Police when everyone else was experiancing server lag. 100 mbps connection is not strong enough to play in wooden servers.. maybe move server to east coast or another country like utah/seatle if you like central us so much

Texas is really terrible for oversea players, the server before texas was much stable midnight spikes.. well who even pvps / farms in midnight anyway :p

devilsknite1 05-03-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GodlyAmbitions (Post 1717342)
Yeah they really have to seperate Era,Un,Iphones with Zod and if possible move the server elsewhere, texas is horrible..



she was jailed by a Graal Police when everyone else was experiancing server lag. 100 mbps connection is not strong enough to play in wooden servers.. maybe move server to east coast or another country like utah/seatle if you like central us so much

Texas is really terrible for oversea players, the server before texas was much stable midnight spikes.. well who even pvps / farms in midnight anyway :p

You need geography lessons if you think Seattle is central U.S....

cbk1994 05-04-2013 02:42 AM

The servers have been quite bad the past few years, seemingly no matter where they've been hosted. The problem seems not to be the location, but instead the actual servers themselves (or perhaps the way resources are being divided and isolated between different Graal servers).

LordSquirt 05-04-2013 01:48 PM

^ this guy is a scrub, but he knows what he's talking about

SensesFail 05-05-2013 07:41 PM

I use to have 60MS on era now I have 151ms so the change did affect things more then just a little, saying the change didnt affect much Stefan is some ****....60 to 151, id say thats a pretty big jump......

GodlyAmbitions 05-08-2013 08:09 AM

my friend used to have 100 ping but now has 400~600 and with these recent lag spikes 1k~2ks along with 10 other people near him :confused:

some people say stefan is downgrading pc graal servers because its not giving him enough cash.. !pissed!

Starfire2001 05-18-2013 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1716705)
Looks like playerworlds got split up and put on their own VMs/machines.

Server Update
15 hours ago
Saturday / April 20, 2013 - 08:30 GMT
Changed host of Atlantis, Bomy Island, Editor Dev, Graal Kingdoms, Graal The Adventure, Login 2, N-Pulse, Ol' West, Skills Debug, Valikorlia

Server Update
15 hours ago
Saturday / April 20, 2013 - 08:20 GMT
Changed host of Era, Kingdoms iPhone, Login, Unholy Nation, Zodiac, Zodiac iPhone, Zone, Zone Debug

Figured I'd mention this again. For UN at least, ever since this change, everyone on the server has gotten a lot more laggy.

Admins 05-18-2013 02:27 AM

We will further improve the server infrastructure, sorry if it's lagging a little bit on some servers. Normally it should be fine but we will check it.

geneticfrog 05-27-2013 02:38 PM

yeah im getting a constant 140MS or worse.

the average MS is around 130 ms or worse.


also for most people on V6 if they don't uncheck "use open GL for graphics" it lags them to death like it does to me. but it keeps checking itself.

Tim_Rocks 05-30-2013 06:56 AM

gj on having all the servers go down just now.

6sixty6 05-30-2013 04:00 PM

so here 12 hours later they ar still down?

6sixty6 05-30-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by geneticfrog (Post 1718370)
yeah im getting a constant 140MS or worse.

the average MS is around 130 ms or worse.


also for most people on V6 if they don't uncheck "use open GL for graphics" it lags them to death like it does to me. but it keeps checking itself.





rofl my average use to be 60 now it been 130 for the last 3 months

Tim_Rocks 05-30-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 6sixty6 (Post 1718541)
so here 12 hours later they ar still down?

rlly

GodlyAmbitions 06-19-2013 01:49 AM

so it came to a point where even people in america have double,triple their original ping
even if we do have 250 or lower ping the server lag is outrageous.. not worth playing at this point.. lagspikes made many quit there are still enough players remaining so i hope its fixed soon


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