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Breezed 07-12-2012 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by shrimps (Post 1699403)
So are the follow-me-penguin and follow-me-ferret.

In a non-sarcastic way, they are.
fme penguin is a sold out MVP/EC item, fme ferret is new.
there could be more fme's from the crate.

WillaWonka 07-12-2012 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Breezed (Post 1699404)
In a non-sarcastic way, they are.
fme penguin is a sold out MVP/EC item, fme ferret is new.
there could be more fme's from the crate.

This is not UN, god, no one understands the concept of era anymore... The syringe was the best thing to happen to era since it became a 2k melee.

smirt362 07-12-2012 05:58 AM

Since he's a mad scientist, maybe there should be mad science-y weapons/items that you can get from the mission.

shrimps 07-12-2012 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by smirt362 (Post 1699406)
Since he's a mad scientist, maybe there should be mad science-y weapons/items that you can get from the mission.

like.....The syringe?....

Breezed 07-12-2012 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by shrimps (Post 1699407)
like.....The syringe?....

I think he means nitros (crash bandicoot 1!), bottled potions, BB's 23dmg .15 freeze gun that the boss uses.

smirt362 07-12-2012 07:57 AM

Tesla coils
Rail guns
Freeze rays
Shrink Gun...Back off!
Etc etc.

shrimps 07-12-2012 08:28 AM

Well, the quest is somehwhat harder, the 4th and 5th rooms are the same. Just run around and kill doors.
Boss is more boss like I guess he doesn't just sit there and die. lol

BlueMelon 07-12-2012 04:57 PM

Guys calm down about the quest. Its not meant to be redone for hours on end...
But since players like them, there will be more of them.

The prizes are set and will not be changed. This is not meant to be the focus of the server :p

WillaWonka 07-12-2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Breezed (Post 1699408)
I think he means nitros (crash bandicoot 1!), bottled potions, BB's 23dmg .15 freeze gun that the boss uses.

He uses a 15dmg "freeze" gun.

smirt362 07-12-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueMelon (Post 1699418)
Guys calm down about the quest. Its not meant to be redone for hours on end...
But since players like them, there will be more of them.

The prizes are set and will not be changed. This is not meant to be the focus of the server :p

Well you're no fun

BlueMelon 07-13-2012 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by smirt362 (Post 1699421)
Well you're no fun

Thats why I spent countless hours creating this quest with Frankie? Please.
:asleep:

Supaman771 07-13-2012 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueMelon (Post 1699437)
Thats why I wasted countless hours creating this quest with Frankie? Please.
:asleep:

:asleep::asleep:

You made it a tiny bit harder, so me and seth do it together now and use an occasional healing crate. Still the same shitty/useless rewards and unnecessarily long wait time between quests for such rewards.

If you're going to 'waste' countless hours; perhaps it can be more than 5 levels, have working NPCs, present a decent storyline, be worth running more than once, bring some challenge, improve the server, or even make sense? This madass scientist made sure to build himself an escape elevator... the only feature in the room he likes to hang out in, yet doesn't think to utilize it himself.

Tsk.

shrimps 07-13-2012 02:20 AM

Obviously it's invisible to him, can you not see he walks through it?

Breezed 07-13-2012 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1699439)
:asleep::asleep:

You made it a tiny bit harder, so me and seth do it together now and use an occasional healing crate. Still the same shitty/useless rewards and unnecessarily long wait time between quests for such rewards.

If you're going to 'waste' countless hours; perhaps it can be more than 5 levels, have working NPCs, present a decent storyline, be worth running more than once, bring some challenge, improve the server, or even make sense? This madass scientist made sure to build himself an escape elevator... the only feature in the room he likes to hang out in, yet doesn't think to utilize it himself.

Tsk.

Cut him some slack.

To put it short and sweet, there isn't enough motivation to complete after the first time.
The time limit between completions is what is ruins any motivation to get these animal fme's, that have an ever so slim chance of being rewarded with on completion.
I have completed this goddamn quest 7 times, still no animal fme's.
Why bother doing it a 8'th time, if I know that it will just end up in me not getting one, and then having to wait another torturous 6 hours to try again?

The simple way to fix this is to either remove the between-completion time limit all-together. Even make the item's from the item crate rarer, I don't care.
This is comparable to the zodiac admins suddenly making it so you can only do all the farming dungeons once every 6 hours, and then having them all drop Nightblade's Manawoven of Aero (completely worthless-comparable to the supplies we get from the crates).

shrimps 07-13-2012 03:51 AM

Or.....Just do it or don't do it. Pretty simple. You don't HAVE to instantaneously have every item as soon as it's obtainable.

Breezed 07-13-2012 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by shrimps (Post 1699445)
Or.....Just do it or don't do it. Pretty simple. You don't HAVE to instantaneously have every item as soon as it's obtainable.

Look, I'm not saying I want the item as soon as it comes out, I'm saying that it's dumb how if we are forced to wait to have another go at getting it.
I wouldn't give two shits if I had to play this quest for 6 hours straight, as long as I was gaurenteed this item after a certain number of tries. But it isn't, because era is trying to be zodiac with two items. There's no point in trying over and over for two cosmetic items. If these two fabled items actually had an effect on gameplay, I would gladly farm over and over again every 6 hours without a question.

The problem is that the item crate gives out free ammo, and free healing items.
If they made the quest have no cooldown, all of era's businesses would be useless.
Why bother going to the store, when you can just spend 30 minutes doing a quest a few times, and get max ammo for almost every gun free? /sarcasm
Need cookies? Don't waste your EC, do this quest! /sarcasm


The simple way to fix this problem is reduce the rate at which these free items can be obtained from the quest, so the 6 hour limit can be removed. Only reason it's there is so businesses don't lose business.

mattdapimp 07-13-2012 05:29 AM

Is there a certain group of items/rewards from this quest? If so, what are they?

Breezed 07-13-2012 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mattdapimp (Post 1699455)
Is there a certain group of items/rewards from this quest? If so, what are they?

The first time you do it, you're rewarded with the Police Cap (Dark Blue w/ Silver trim hat) and Syringe (14dmg meele, drugs, slows, and bleeds people).
The second time you do it and so on, you get an item crate, which rewards you w/ a bunch of ammo/healing items, or if you're extremely lucky, a follow me (fme) penguin or ferret.

BlueMelon 07-13-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1699439)
:asleep::asleep:

You made it a tiny bit harder, so me and seth do it together now and use an occasional healing crate. Still the same shitty/useless rewards and unnecessarily long wait time between quests for such rewards.

If you're going to 'waste' countless hours; perhaps it can be more than 5 levels, have working NPCs, present a decent storyline, be worth running more than once, bring some challenge, improve the server, or even make sense? This madass scientist made sure to build himself an escape elevator... the only feature in the room he likes to hang out in, yet doesn't think to utilize it himself.

Tsk.


The NPCs do work, the story line is great (maybe if you took the time to read it), worth running more then once? You get an item crate. Challenge? Players have a hard time finishing it.

Don't like it, don't play it. Simple as that.

And Breezed, just stop commenting. Like shrimps said, you don't need to have every new item when it is released. If that's your only motivation, sorry but this quest was not intended for that.

Crono 07-13-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueMelon (Post 1699472)
The NPCs do work, the story line is great (maybe if you took the time to read it), worth running more then once? You get an item crate. Challenge? Players have a hard time finishing it.

Don't like it, don't play it. Simple as that.

And Breezed, just stop commenting. Like shrimps said, you don't need to have every new item when it is released. If that's your only motivation, sorry but this quest was not intended for that.

Storyline? NPCs re-spawn so fast I can't even read 3/4 of the NPCs. Why do they even re-spawn to begin with?

supaman you gotta carry me through btw :]]

DuBsTeRmAn 07-13-2012 04:53 PM

I have to agree with Crono that it is really weird that the NPCs respawn..

Last night i was trying to finish the quest with 4 friends.. Before we got to kill all 5 NPCs the first one already respawned before we could run to the next room..

Yeah ok, we suck at PK, but it is kind of lame that they respawn after being dead.. atleast make them be zombies after the first time dieng and if you kill them then, theyre gone.

WillaWonka 07-13-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueMelon (Post 1699472)
The NPCs do work, the story line is great (maybe if you took the time to read it), worth running more then once? You get an item crate. Challenge? Players have a hard time finishing it.

Don't like it, don't play it. Simple as that.

And Breezed, just stop commenting. Like shrimps said, you don't need to have every new item when it is released. If that's your only motivation, sorry but this quest was not intended for that.

Ya, if you want to read the storyline, you will get left behind from your group, then 5 NPCs will spawn on your ass and your stuck.

Breezed 07-13-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1699474)
I have to agree with Crono that it is really weird that the NPCs respawn..

Last night i was trying to finish the quest with 4 friends.. Before we got to kill all 5 NPCs the first one already respawned before we could run to the next room..

Yeah ok, we suck at PK, but it is kind of lame that they respawn after being dead.. atleast make them be zombies after the first time dieng and if you kill them then, theyre gone.

This.
Zombies should not respawn--apparently they do 60 damage now.

shrimps 07-13-2012 06:16 PM

Yeah.....You don't have time to look into any story line....
Maybe if there were "safe rooms" in between each level that has information or stuff to read, but in the same rooms where you fight you don't have time.

Fiberwyre_P2P 07-13-2012 07:06 PM

It was a decent first attempt, at least.

And who cares about a quest? We should be celebrating the return of parties :D

Supaman771 07-13-2012 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1699473)
supaman you gotta carry me through btw :]]

You never pmed me :3

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Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P (Post 1699478)
And who cares about a quest? We should be celebrating the return of parties :D

I want to name my party pls.

WillaWonka 07-13-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1699479)



I want to name my party pls.


WHAT?!?!? you mean "The Decent halfbreed Clique" is not a good name for PKing!?!?!

Supaman771 07-13-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WillaWonka (Post 1699481)
WHAT?!?!? you mean "The Decent halfbreed Clique" is not a good name for PKing!?!?!

Needs more Babytoys.

Gambet1337 07-13-2012 10:31 PM

did the quest with rogue couldn't get passed round 2... ***** is a liar >;o

Supaman771 07-13-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambet1337 (Post 1699486)
did the quest with rogue couldn't get passed round 2... ***** is a liar >;o

That second room is so rigged now omg the bottom guy keeps getting stuck on the pillar. So by the time you go kill him after the first wave, they respawn and they're bugged so I cant hurt them and stuff qq.

BlueMelon 07-14-2012 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by shrimps (Post 1699477)
Yeah.....You don't have time to look into any story line....
Maybe if there were "safe rooms" in between each level that has information or stuff to read, but in the same rooms where you fight you don't have time.

I like this idea. It will be put into future creations.

WillaWonka 07-14-2012 06:30 AM

You should think about doing a scary quest. With a scary storyline, gripping.

amf101 07-14-2012 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1699482)
Needs more Babytoys.

Exactly.

Breezed 07-14-2012 06:47 AM

Needs more "The Tender Peen Club"-- I literally got this as a party name once.
I cherished this party name for a total of 12 hours until I got random dc'd by the server.

WillaWonka 07-14-2012 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1699482)
Needs more Babytoys.

Needs more cowbell.


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