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Demisis_P2P 03-20-2011 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rave_J (Post 1637748)
so question i have to ask why make pc where u have to pay u should just make it 100 percent free since we been running it with you u and stefan help ?
u guys havent update nothing on pc since 08 i think expect stefan a few scripts
why is al the other platforms free and pc verison is not ??? i think u guys should worry about pc verison since thats the main leg for graal

If you'd read the thread: he stated that he wants PC servers to convert to free to play, but there are some requirements that they need to meet first.
Once the PC servers are free to play he will start advertising the PC version to iPhone and Facebook players.

JesusFreak250 03-20-2011 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1637746)
I, for some reason, don't want to :oo:

why wouldn't you want to be one of the first people to play graal free FB?

drewprayer 03-20-2011 09:02 PM

i would love to beta test the android version and facebook version.

i would be honored to apply :)

ps you might remember me as Gulthex ;0

Deas_Voice 03-20-2011 09:05 PM

Edit: reread the thread,
great work with all the new updates, can those who is interested to try "flash" graal get access?

yay @ android + new development tools!

(also, i very interested to try out the android version, i got an HTC Desire Z )

cbk1994 03-20-2011 09:05 PM

As a staff member, I would really like to know what your plans for PC Era are.

unixmad 03-20-2011 09:10 PM

Free to Play is possible when server and content have been transformed to bring revenues with items and features.

Graal Classic/Era Iphone servers have been transformed to fit Free to Play.

So before switching to free to play, servers will have to introduce Pay items/heads or features.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rave_J (Post 1637748)
so question i have to ask why make pc where u have to pay u should just make it 100 percent free since we been running it with you u and stefan help ?
u guys havent update nothing on pc since 08 i think expect stefan a few scripts
why is al the other platforms free and pc verison is not ??? i think u guys should worry about pc verison since thats the main leg for graal


unixmad 03-20-2011 09:13 PM

Android will get a native client and will not use the Flash Player. So Yes it will be touch screen version like the iPhone/iPod/iPad version.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewprayer (Post 1637718)
will you make the facebook version touch screen friendly? sence android supports flash?


Sinkler 03-20-2011 09:15 PM

I am happy to hear that Graal is moving into the worlds of Facebook.

Great update. I hope to start playing it soon!

Conqueror 03-20-2011 09:18 PM

Let the haters hate. I believe that this will only create a positive effect on the PC community (in time). Facebook is such an awesome networking tool. I haven't played the iphone version of graal yet, so I can't necessarily say if it's a good or bad product; but the PC version of graal is definitely not ready to "release" to the public.

Good advertising + bad product = High playercount with constant decline
Bad advertising + good product = Low playercount with little/no decline
Good Advertising + good product = high playercount, possibly increasing each week

Rave_J 03-20-2011 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unixmad (Post 1637758)
Free to Play is possible when server and content have been transformed to bring revenues with items and features.

Graal Classic/Era Iphone servers have been transformed to fit Free to Play.

So before switching to free to play, servers will have to introduce Pay items/heads or features.

so if u guys make pc free u would have grelat to change ur heads and stuff weapons like iphone server why not go to where 15 dollars a month for lifetime classic again or even older system where some servers u pay per month like 3 dollars and the rest is 100 percent free

drewprayer 03-20-2011 09:19 PM

when will the android version be released?

Elizabeth 03-20-2011 09:21 PM

ya i think it's a good idea for advertising graal and getting more people but i dont plan on playing it on facebook

james544 03-20-2011 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewprayer (Post 1637763)
when will the android version be released?

April.

Darlene159 03-20-2011 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewprayer (Post 1637763)
when will the android version be released?

This is addressed in the first post of this thread...

Demisis_P2P 03-20-2011 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1637764)
ya i think it's a good idea for advertising graal and getting more people but i dont plan on playing it on facebook

Elizabeth just bought 300 gralats on Graal Online Classic! Come play with her!

Elizabeth just got the Lizardon Shield on Graal Online Classic! Come play with her!

drewprayer 03-20-2011 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1637767)
This is addressed in the first post of this thread...

i was confused sence he said either april.

so i was thinking either april or what?

Elizabeth 03-20-2011 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1637768)
Elizabeth just bought 300 gralats on Graal Online Classic! Come play with her!

Elizabeth just got the Lizardon Shield on Graal Online Classic! Come play with her!

lmao oh my

PowerProNL 03-20-2011 09:31 PM

Dammit, if it was the first 4 i was one of the testers:cry:

PowerProNL 03-20-2011 09:33 PM

+ making a facebook account for Graal :D

cbk1994 03-20-2011 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1637756)
As a staff member, I would really like to know what your plans for PC Era are.

Would be nice to know if I should bother finishing all the stuff I've started or just give up...

MysticX2X 03-20-2011 09:48 PM

Great job!

Thor probably will be infuriated with the facebook players now :asleep:

xnervNATx 03-20-2011 09:53 PM

way to crush my hope, i was sure graal was going to be free again when i saw the title "graal free to play..."

WanDaMan 03-20-2011 09:54 PM

It's easy to create a Graal Online Facebook account if you're concerned about your friends commenting on your achievements - mine is facebook.com/wdmgraal :)

smirt362 03-20-2011 09:58 PM

Quote:

New Dev Tools including level editor
Hooray!

Luda 03-20-2011 10:12 PM

Curious about the outcome, hopefully it draws in more people. Does anyone else find the thing that displays your friends and guild ugly as ****?

Crow 03-20-2011 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesusFreak250 (Post 1637751)
why wouldn't you want to be one of the first people to play graal free FB?

I hate Facebook. It will probably increase the popularity of Graal, so that's cool, but I, personally, don't want to play it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Luda (Post 1637797)
Does anyone else find the thing that displays your friends and guild ugly as ****?

Oh, me, me! Do I win?

OasaTor_PK 03-20-2011 10:20 PM

And to think I was actually expecting something interesting.

Great business plan here. Just look at how retarded the average Facebook user is. Throw up some micro transactions for custom hairstyles and the money will be flowing in like crazy!

>The reason I will never be a facebook member.

fowlplay4 03-20-2011 10:25 PM

I really hope we don't get bombarded with nameless pc:###### accounts as a result.

ReptarKingOfTheOZone 03-20-2011 10:26 PM

excellent :) i look foward to testing :)

smirt362 03-20-2011 10:27 PM

Can we get some more info on the new dev tools?

Crow 03-20-2011 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smirt362 (Post 1637803)
Can we get some more info on the new dev tools?

GS4 support. Will be another 5 years to get that for the client, though. Sorry!

Rufus 03-20-2011 10:45 PM

I don't understand. Is that a "new" server for Facebook, or is that the current iPhone server?

Quote:

Originally Posted by unixmad (Post 1637735)
Graal iPhone and Pc Players will not play on the same servers.

This + Screenshot = :confused:

Shadow5596321 03-20-2011 10:45 PM

iPhone server apperently.

Grimm753 03-20-2011 10:52 PM

So what does this mean about the client/downloadable graal? Is it going to be rendered useless once facebook graal hits?

Are all the servers on current PC graal going to be reset? Are we going to lose the ability to sethead/body etc?

joel34 03-20-2011 10:52 PM

Obviously, he's playing the iPhone server on facebook. Doesn't mean on release they'll have the same servers..

Hatred89 03-20-2011 11:02 PM

1) So just to sum everything up it sounds like there will be a total of 4 different era servers and 4 different classic servers. iPhone, Facebook, PC, and Andriod?
2) Playerworlds will have a chance to become free to play once they create some type of cashshop for their server I assume. So for example how on the iphone server you can purchase gelats, house, guild, or what not if you do something similar to that for your server that your server will become free to play.
3) Staff still doesn't get compensated for their hard work. We bring the money into graal and we make graal but we get nothing in return except a better game lol.

So even if you don't have an iphone/driod/facebook this will still end up bringing more players to graal once servers are set up to be free to play. This could also encourage players who have quit to return to graal. The iphone servers gets about 1k+ each roughly so having a facebook servers and driod servers will probably tripple the ammount of people on graal and increase their revenue. So its good but could of been better.

oo_jazz_oo 03-20-2011 11:10 PM

Happy about the Dev Tools...

Mixed feelings about Facebook app. Seems kind of silly to have so many servers...
Graal Classic for iPhone, Graal Classic for Android (unless adroid plays on iphone server), Graal Classic for Facebook, and Graal Classic?

Tbh, seems like a kick in the stomach to Thor and the like working on Classic pc.
"You're hard at work recreating the server? Oh, well, were just gonna release 4 identicle servers full of reused content. Kthxbai."
Unless of course you talked it over with the team at Classic...I somehow doubt that tho.

fowlplay4 03-20-2011 11:17 PM

Due to the release of 'Flash Graal' do you have plans to publish it on kongregate.com?

0PiX0 03-20-2011 11:22 PM

There are many directions a free-to-play server could possibly take: Facebook, iPhone, and Android. Now, if only there were some sort of motivation to create a free-to-play server. I do not see why any decent developer would want to create a quality free-to-play server for free. :confused:

The only reason iPhone Classic and iPhone Era were created is because they had PC counterparts to copy directly. New developer tools will be nice, however that alone will not motivate developers to create new free-to-play servers. Many people may feel that more servers is a bad idea, because it spreads out the Graal population onto too many servers, but when iPhone Era was released, iPhone Classic did not lose its playercount at all. This is because iEra was advertised as a new game in the app store. So, the iPhone Graal community was expanded, not spread out. :cool:

Creating new free-to-play servers with different gameplay styles would increase the Graal's base playercount. Which, in turn, would amount to more cash flow for Eurocenter. I just do not see it happening without developers having some sort of cash payment as incentive.

Hatred89 03-20-2011 11:26 PM

The motivation is a larger playercount? Graal no longer offers unlimited classic accounts anymore right? So if you make your server capable of being free to play then it simply means more players for your server. For example Era, Zodiac, GK, Zone, and Maloria all could apply to be a free server by making cashshop items?
Also any current server in development right now would want to apply? Doesn't mean your starting from scratch and free server I am pretty sure he meant pc graal not andriod/iphone/facebook because you could already try and apply to be an iphone server.


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