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DarkHero 05-26-2010 05:58 PM

I'd wreck ur face on CS... Soto, i remember u... hey if u change ur name to Toto, its spanish for VAGINNAAA... sike let me stop.

Dnegel 05-26-2010 10:18 PM

Off-topic
Go make a CS thread instead of talking in this thread about CS. >_<

Brad 06-11-2010 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dnegel (Post 1578820)
Off-topic
Go make a CS thread instead of talking in this thread about CS. >_<

we were talkin about 2k1 CS guy.

Dnegel 06-11-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad (Post 1581338)
we were talkin about 2k1 CS guy.

Oh, I didn't know.

DeCeaseD 06-11-2010 10:06 PM

I don't see why Skyld hasn't even given us any update as to what his plans are in regards to the server ever since he took over. I mean if anyone was actually going to do anything with the server, I think that you should at least give a small update as to the status of the server and what may happen to it. Skyld really seems like he's the most "suitable" for the position of managing the server. [/end sarcasm]

FaLLChiLD 06-29-2010 08:18 PM

From what I heard, everything Rufus was doing is getting scrapped to go back to Lance's 2k1. Then again seems like this project is just dead as ever. So here's to the wasted potential! :raises glass:

fowlplay4 06-29-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FaLLChiLD (Post 1584901)
everything Rufus was doing is getting scrapped to go back to Lance's 2k1.

The thing is, I don't think very many people actually knew what he was doing. Feel free to let us know though. As long as those dreadful classic-tall bodies don't return.

xAndrewx 06-29-2010 09:16 PM

he gave it to skyld...

Crono 06-29-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1584905)
The thing is, I don't think very many people actually knew what he was doing. Feel free to let us know though. As long as those dreadful classic-tall bodies don't return.

the dreadful classic-tall bodies are part of lance's g2k1

DeCeaseD 06-30-2010 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1584925)
he gave it to skyld...

Hence me ranting about Skyld not giving us any information on as to what is going on, it's sad that another person is coming into this thread before he does and telling us "Oh, I heard so and so is happening..". And if what Fall is saying is true, than Skyld really should just go back to not making servers like he has been for however long it's been since he's worked anywhere. Honestly, I don't see why you would convert back to a crap version of a server when there is a very VERY nice server already started.. I don't get what is wrong with people now a'days! !pissed!

Rufus 06-30-2010 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DeCeaseD (Post 1585020)
Skyld really should just go back to not making servers like he has been for however long it's been since he's worked anywhere.

Bro I can't remember any successful servers you've made?

DeCeaseD 06-30-2010 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1585022)
Bro I can't remember any successful servers you've made?

I'm sorry, was I talking to you.. ? Even if I was, who are you to talk? I don't remember you making anything, period. :confused:

Rufus 06-30-2010 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DeCeaseD (Post 1585024)
I'm sorry, was I talking to you.. ? Even if I was, who are you to talk? I don't remember you making anything, period. :confused:

Bro this is a public forum is it not? If you expect people to take anything you're saying seriously, especially someone like Skyld, then I suggest you stop letting your maturity slip because it's your kind of stinking attitude that kills any motivation. Nobody wants to work on a server for scrubs with attitudes like yours.

DeCeaseD 06-30-2010 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1585025)
Bro this is a public forum is it not? If you expect people to take anything you're saying seriously, especially someone like Skyld, then I suggest you stop letting your maturity slip because it's your kind of stinking attitude that kills any motivation. Nobody wants to work on a server for scrubs with attitudes like yours.

Yes, it is a public forum, you're right. But since when does me talking about someones lack of doing concern you? You come in here trying to down my accomplishments and calling me a scrub with an attitude because I've made a statement about Skyld's doings and non-doings, really.. ? Now who's having the "maturity slips"? Heh.

Rufus 06-30-2010 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DeCeaseD (Post 1585029)
Yes, it is a public forum, you're right. But since when does me talking about someones lack of doing concern you? You come in here trying to down my accomplishments and calling me a scrub with an attitude because I've made a statement about Skyld's doings and non-doings, really.. ? Now who's having the "maturity slips"? Heh.

When your post was brought up in the context of my name it concerns me, yeah. I'm not the one trying to gain something from this thread, that's you. You're just throwing lines of petty insulting and that is not the way to get an answer, only a means of ostracizing someone. If you have concerns for the server, either speak about them in a constructive and empathic manor or don't expect a reply. It's as simple as that.

LordSquirt 06-30-2010 07:26 AM

No need to fight, take it to PMs ladies.

To me you're both pro in your own ways and that's all you should care about :)

DeCeaseD 06-30-2010 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1585031)
When your post was brought up in the context of my name it concerns me, yeah. I'm not the one trying to gain something from this thread, that's you. You're just throwing lines of petty insulting and that is not the way to get an answer, only a means of ostracizing someone. If you have concerns for the server, either speak about them in a constructive and empathic manor or don't expect a reply. It's as simple as that.

Yeah, you're right I am the one trying to get something out of this thread, which is something that obviously won't happen. So, in turn I'll throw my "pretty insulting" comments out there because I feel it's deserved. Obviously Bomy Island is and has been a well liked project which Konidias liked to keep people updated on, and ever since he gave you "Manager" or whatever you called yourself, all you've done is kept people in the dark. So okay, why not give it to Skyld so he can do the same thing and we can just leave another potentially glorious server to die like you supposed "Great Developers" usually do. :noob:

Rufus 06-30-2010 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DeCeaseD (Post 1585036)
Yeah, you're right I am the one trying to get something out of this thread, which is something that obviously won't happen.

One would think that it'd be time to readdress your methods if what you're after "obviously won't happen" so y'know..

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Originally Posted by DeCeaseD (Post 1585036)
So, in turn I'll throw my "pretty insulting" comments out there because I feel it's deserved.

Good luck getting a response, because that is something that is not deserved.

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Originally Posted by DeCeaseD (Post 1585036)
Obviously Bomy Island is and has been a well liked project which Konidias liked to keep people updated on, and ever since he gave you "Manager" or whatever you called yourself, all you've done is kept people in the dark.

This makes no sense either. Just because Konidias enjoyed posting pretty pictures of things that were not completed doesn't mean everyone after him needs to do the same. Posting rehashes of rehashes is not exciting in my opinion, and that's a lot of the work that we did. You can not force people to do things in the same style as someone else, or something they are not comfortable with; it would only lead to more disappointment in the end. Sure, Skyld probably should update people on where he is on the server, but posts like this are 'standoffish' rather than encouraging.

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Originally Posted by DeCeaseD (Post 1585036)
So okay, why not give it to Skyld so he can do the same thing and we can just leave another potentially glorious server to die like you supposed "Great Developers" usually do. :noob:

That "potentially glorious server" was only made possible by the "great developers" that have worked on it. Posting screenshots on a forum has very little to do with it. With that said, I'm done with this conversation. It's clear what you prefer, but that is not going to get you (or the server) anywhere. Don't expect a revival with a ****ty attitude like that, clinging onto someone who is long gone, and whose content was pretty much remade.

DeCeaseD 06-30-2010 07:50 AM

I wasn't exactly referring to "updates" as screenshots Rufus. An update to me is "Okay, well here's what we plan on doing" or "Okay, well here's what is currently being worked on". But no, nothing was ever done in regards to that and nor does it seem that any attempts have been made to do so. I don't mean to come off "standoffish", but it's just annoying when you want to be notified of something or feel that you should be and you're not. Also, I never intended to bring any distasteful words or insults your way or Skyld's way, it's just my opinion that we as "Graalians" should have been updated on a project that is open to the community. (I mean come on, Bomy Island has it's own Section on the Graal Forums.) x_x

Kramer 07-04-2010 04:30 AM

I miss 2k1, i'm going to attempt to find a backup soon.

Kamaeru 07-04-2010 07:21 AM

Sup Kramer.

Let's do this. Do our thang.

Graal2001 already has so many unfinished plans which are genius, it's like we would be required to do no thinking whatsoever and the fun part is up to the willing.

A far cry from a project like Classic, where loads of my brain seem to be required.
Development for Graal2001 should be cake.

There was a time when Graal2001 development required specialization, and these days it seems like there are MORE qualified developers around. They're just scattered and not concentrated. I'd like to see 2k1 turned into something of a concentration camp for developers.

Scoff if you'd like. You're probably taking what I said out of context.

Fulg0reSama 07-04-2010 07:44 AM

Whoever takes the above out of context is an ignorant noob.

Alure1316 07-06-2010 08:45 PM

I'd like to see Graal2001 open its doors again. Graal PC/Mac needs to get its playerbase back, as there seems to be more players on iPhone Graal...

Lance 07-12-2010 11:51 PM

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This thread is awesome. Did you guys know (I hated spoiling surprises) that eons ago I was setting it up where you could be whatever type of body you liked better? It had almost been finished when we were strong-armed into a premature release!

Loriel 07-13-2010 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 1587240)
This thread is awesome. Did you guys know (I hated spoiling surprises) that eons ago I was setting it up where you could be whatever type of body you liked better? It had almost been finished when we were strong-armed into a premature release!

So did Twusk get his neck realigned?

benpoke103 07-13-2010 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1587241)
So did Twusk get his neck realigned?

I don't think so, unfortunately. He's still endlessly scavenging for cheese using portals.

Rufus 07-13-2010 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 1587240)
Did you guys know (I hated spoiling surprises) that eons ago I was setting it up where you could be whatever type of body you liked better? It had almost been finished when we were strong-armed into a premature release!

Having two different body sizes with completely different proportions sounds (and looks) dumb as hell.

Lance 07-13-2010 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1587244)
Having two different body sizes with completely different proportions sounds (and looks) dumb as hell.

Oh no, some people might have been taller than other people! To be fair, it was only going to be a temporary thing anyway. The point of it was to transition from having scripts set specific animations to setting animations based on the type of body being worked with (human, bomy, whatever). Stage 2 of the same plan was to ditch both in favor of the new short bodies whenever ganis were made for them. Unfortunately, we never made it to Stage 2 because our gani-making folks were never up to the task.

Alure1316 07-13-2010 08:25 PM

So who is in charge now and when is Bomy Islands opening up again? At least have a sparring room or "bomberman" game up again.

fowlplay4 07-13-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Alure1316 (Post 1587448)
So who is in charge now and when is Bomy Islands opening up again? At least have a sparring room or "bomberman" game up again.

Skyld, and unknown (never if you use forum activity as a measure of server progress).

gravator 07-14-2010 02:11 PM

It has been awhile since this server has been up, and since then i'm sure many changes to the scripting engine and whatever else was made better or available for use, Is it REALLY necessary to remake all of the graphics for the entire server AND all of the scripting as if you were making something completly from nothing? There was quite a bit of old content, tiles, and other good graphics ready to go, and i'm unsure what was planned with scripting everything, it felt to me like people were making entirely new levels, gani's tilesets and whatnot and making it in the image of bomy moon without using a thing from the old server.

Since the last time it was opened the server went on a fort knox type of lockdown where nothing is shown to the community or talked about other than your assurance that "work is being done, hold your horses please" And sadly, rufus was overwhelmed by the workload, most likely from lack of proper help to do it and now i feel all of the work you have done, koni and lance before you, will not really be used and the next manager will try to add their ideas to the server from square one pretty much, stating such things as "The scripting was poorly done, and a general mess, so i started over and things are going great, but there is lots to do so send in those applications and you might be hired! High quality work only." and the tired excuses some people use about not wanting to work with a certain player because "It just wont work out, we CAN'T work together." that's BS, in the real world you do your damn job even if you hate the other guy, it's all about the server, not your own little personal feelings against another worker.

James205 07-15-2010 06:36 PM

Haha this is still being passed on from on developer to another? Each one claiming significant progress has been made and some announcement is coming... then nothing comes.

I'd think it would be easy enough to atleast put up a simple release of g2k1, remember when it first came out and there was barely anything to do because nothing was finished? All you could really do was jump rope, do one quest, cs and a couple of other things. Why not release it from it's bare essential form when it was released initially? Then progressively work on finishing and releasing items/jobs/quests like how it did in the first place?

It worked before and it should work again. I mean we are honestly talking about a playerworld that was released 10 years ago. You're never going to get people engaged in it by just simply passing it to someone, that person claiming it's almost done, quits then passes it on to someone else.

What seems to keep happening is people come in, plan to change wayyy too much then lose interest. Please someone just do it right for god sakes or just put it to rest forever.

Alure1316 07-15-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by James205 (Post 1587754)
Haha this is still being passed on from on developer to another? Each one claiming significant progress has been made and some announcement is coming... then nothing comes.

I'd think it would be easy enough to atleast put up a simple release of g2k1, remember when it first came out and there was barely anything to do because nothing was finished? All you could really do was jump rope, do one quest, cs and a couple of other things. Why not release it from it's bare essential form when it was released initially? Then progressively work on finishing and releasing items/jobs/quests like how it did in the first place?

It worked before and it should work again. I mean we are honestly talking about a playerworld that was released 10 years ago. You're never going to get people engaged in it by just simply passing it to someone, that person claiming it's almost done, quits then passes it on to someone else.

What seems to keep happening is people come in, plan to change wayyy too much then lose interest. Please someone just do it right for god sakes or just put it to rest forever.

I agree. Release Bomy for us, and work on the server while we play the basic quests, and while we mine, and cut bushes for gralat and just have fun around the server. Then release packets of content every month or so.

At this rate, Bomy Island will never be released. Did Rufus even work on it? I remember he posted a video on YouTube of him gliding down the swamp. Wtf?

Kamaeru 07-16-2010 05:44 PM

At least Lance was able to get something released and have hundreds of players stick around for months until the workforce couldn't keep up with the work load literally.

I don't see anything like that going on for a single person on Graal right now.
Seems like a hell of a lot more fun than what goes on these days, also.
It was.

fowlplay4 07-16-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamaeru (Post 1587911)
At least Lance was able to get something released and have hundreds of players stick around for months until the workforce couldn't keep up with the work load literally.

Months? I don't remember Graal Bomy Moon's classic release lasting any longer than a week nor was it even that great.

xXziroXx 07-16-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1587934)
Months? I don't remember Graal Bomy Moon's classic release lasting any longer than a week nor was it even that great.

That was the second release.

Kamaeru 07-17-2010 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1587934)
Months? I don't remember Graal Bomy Moon's classic release lasting any longer than a week nor was it even that great.

It just so happens that I don't remember the instance you're talking about, either. I might have sorely missed a release.

fowlplay4 07-17-2010 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamaeru (Post 1587996)
It just so happens that I don't remember the instance you're talking about, either. I might have sorely missed a release.

Looks like we've had a misunderstanding then, oh well.

I too would love to see someone with the ability to bring G2K1 back to something playable, with iPhone Graal becoming a success this could easily be the server that joins the two communities.

Geno 07-20-2010 07:31 PM

graal2k1 iphone. i like...

Alure1316 07-21-2010 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Geno (Post 1588706)
graal2k1 iphone. i like...

Graal2k1 iphone/psp/ps3/pc/mac

Imagine the playercount!


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