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Originally Posted by SwimChao (Post 1518000)

Now you're just taking what I said from one point in the ball park, and throwing it to the completely opposite corner.

I have no problem breaking this down into the smallest piece I can think of taking it right now, to further explain to you how the forums are handled on Unholy Nation (no matter how off topic that it may now be):

When it comes to the UN Suggestions category of the forums, we let players give their own personal suggestions to better the server. Not once did I say, or even hint that we organize the significant from insignificant posts the way you're presenting. We read through the posts, obviously, and if it's a suggestion we're sure we can have done (or do right away) that has the three things I brought up in my earlier post (Time, thought and logic), we'll reply to it accordingly. I don't know how often you use the forums on the server, but if you did you'd realize that there are a lot of threads that are self answered by the people who post in them, and outrageous ones a like. While there are a lot of good ones, there are an equal amount of bad ones (most of which are deleted before they get any decent time to get replied to).

On top of that, I'm not sure how fair it is for you to throw this all on me like I have time to juggle my personal life, organize the server/it's development, and reply to every single suggestion thread that ever goes through the forums. There's a lot more to my volunteered position on this server than sitting and clicking refresh on the forums, so that I can reply with the proper answer to it right away. On top of that, I usually run anything significant by some of the Developers (IE. Joe, _Zelph) and higher/older staff within the teams for their opinions on the things as well. If we just made a bucket load of spontaneous suggestions based on one player's want, there would be so much on this server with no primary role for anyone other than the person who suggested it. Does that make sense?

Just to give you a ball park idea about how uncaring I am about UN's community... I probably get more PMs in a couple hours than most players get in an entire week of playing the server. There was a point in time (prior to the PM add-on you'll see if you try to message me now) that PMs for me was like sitting, and responding detailed to every single mass message that goes out on the server. Because unlike most past staff members, I try to take the time to respond to all the whys and hows of the PMs I receive- from everybody that I get them from. A few PMs sometimes slip under the radar, but mostly it's because I'm busy responding to the other PMs, and the player logs out.

I really don't know what else to say to your post from there. You're free to form an opinion about it, present it, and support it as much as you want. If you genuinely have a problem with me, though, you'd be best to PM me so we can resolve it. If that won't work for you, I hate to put more on their table, but there's always the Support Center where you're free to submit a ticket about staff corruption. Because in reality, what you described is nothing but staff corruption and should be de-rooted from a server as quickly as possible.

Nothing I'm saying am I trying to say in a hostile manner, or pompously. I'm just trying to break it down so you understand me a little better :). I will not respond to this topic any further unless it pertains to the Capture The Flag maps.

yes, welcome to being a manager. don't act like i'm posting ignorance about something i know nothing about, because i do know what it means to be a manager. that doesn't give you an excuse, nor an out of the situation

you setup in-game forums instead of focusing on the official graal ones, and you thought people were going to take them seriously? obviously some will, but like you said, most of the posts are self-answered and stupid. if you are going to have your own forums separate from the ones that actually matter, then i'm surprised you weren't prepared for it ahead of time (as it seems like you weren't from your post)

as to the relation of CTF, i don't see what it is your could be working on that is more important than player suggestions, and i say that because you don't give the players any information about what it is you are doing. sure you're juggling a personal life and other such activities - does that mean you can't post a thread (preferably in these forums) about it? how long does it take you to write up an information-based post about things, or to appoint someone to do it for you? if you are spending your time answering PMs, then i'm sure you can spend some of that time posting a thread that you could have everyone read instead of personal responses for everyone. i'm not throwing it all on you - you just happen to be the only staff member of UN that actually posts here, who else could i throw it on?

and just to make sure, i also wrote this and my previous message with no animosity intent. it's just that the way you are handling player requests make it appear as if you don't give them any time or thought at all with no response, or you make players wait because of other mysterious projects that every single staff member is apparently working on but we have no information about. take my spar leagues example: i told you exactly how much time it would take to make it happen, what would be needed, and why it would be a simple matter of changing around TCspar in order to let spar mods host small leagues every week or so since UTC has lost a lot of it's meaning to sparrers. and what did you tell me? you said that the staff was working on other projects that were taking up so much of their time that they had no time to spend on changing around the levels in upper TCspar or to script the extremely simple commands to make it actually work, and that you would get to it later. that was several months ago - i have no information on these "current projects" i have no information about what you even think about any type of independent sparring leagues on UN, and what i do see is staff warping about having fun, or making mass messages about whatever