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TSAdmin 05-12-2009 04:26 PM

Why not just have the message that comes up when trying to connect to a server you're banned on include both "Ban type" AND the "Reason" fields?

Quote:

Message
This account is banned.
Reason: BAN TYPE
Comments: /openaccess' Reason field
Release in TIME

SymphoniaPrince 05-12-2009 06:38 PM

Yeah, I pretty much agree with DuBsTeRmAn, unless it is a corrupt staff banning people... Then the person knows good-N-well what he/she's done....They can play stupid like "What!? I didn't interupt an event!!" or they can stfu ...Lets worry more about the important stuff like reviving this decaying game.

DustyPorViva 05-13-2009 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1491082)
Well i don't really see why would this be needed? I think that you know what you're banned for? :)

Not really. Not every ban is justified nor always understood. There are many times players may encounter some bannable reasons without ever honestly being aware. Certain windows being opened will trigger a warning to staff who may automatically ban. Some staff will ban without a good reason or reason at all, and while their reason may be a lie, at least you can see if you actually did something wrong or if they're just lying. There are many ways this would be needed.

Not to mention the predefined lists do not cover all circumstances, so staff will just use whatever reason best fits their time they want to ban, leaving the banned-one going, "WTF... I didn't interrupt an event!!!".

Cloven 05-13-2009 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1491182)
Not to mention the predefined lists do not cover all circumstances, so staff will just use whatever reason best fits their time they want to ban, leaving the banned-one going, "WTF... I didn't interrupt an event!!!".

This is something that I'm surprised isn't commonsense. The fact that this is currently the system creates more problems than it solves, possibly save for your more serious offenses.

Admins 05-13-2009 01:14 PM

I'm more for adding more ban reasons instead of displaying the ban comments, which are comments and often not very accurate.

DuBsTeRmAn 05-13-2009 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1491182)
Not really. Not every ban is justified nor always understood. There are many times players may encounter some bannable reasons without ever honestly being aware. Certain windows being opened will trigger a warning to staff who may automatically ban. Some staff will ban without a good reason or reason at all, and while their reason may be a lie, at least you can see if you actually did something wrong or if they're just lying. There are many ways this would be needed.

Not to mention the predefined lists do not cover all circumstances, so staff will just use whatever reason best fits their time they want to ban, leaving the banned-one going, "WTF... I didn't interrupt an event!!!".

Well in that case there still is the ''Support Center'' where they could sumbit a ticket and ask for the reason of the ban.

DuBsTeRmAn 05-13-2009 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1491250)
I'm more for adding more ban reasons instead of displaying the ban comments, which are comments and often not very accurate.

Well lets do that then? ;o

Frankie 05-13-2009 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1491278)
Well in that case there still is the ''Support Center'' where they could sumbit a ticket and ask for the reason of the ban.

if staff were able to include their own ban messages there would be a lot less support tickets regarding one's ban reason. less support tickets is less stress on the PWAs which makes them do their job better.

if you're going to add more pre-defined ban reasons you should at least separate ban reasons from ban time. that's the whole reason why banning is a mess because there may be a certain amount time that a staff member wants to ban a player, but that time is linked with a ban reason which in no way relate to what the player did.

cbk1994 05-13-2009 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1491250)
I'm more for adding more ban reasons instead of displaying the ban comments, which are comments and often not very accurate.

You could display both, but I think just displaying the comments would be best; the actual "reason" selected from the list is also almost always inaccurate.

If you add more reasons, then let us choose the time, or the same thing will happen now. An extreme case of something sometimes happens that warrants a longer ban than the list in RC thinks it should be.
Quote:

Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1491278)
Well in that case there still is the ''Support Center'' where they could sumbit a ticket and ask for the reason of the ban.

That would just waste the PWAs time.

Rufus 05-13-2009 11:58 PM

Detach the ban reasons from the amount of time given. People often place fault reasons just so that they can give an appropriate time for the 'crime' that has been done; that is the problem with the current system. A few more additional generic reasons for receiving a ban wouldn't hurt either.

DustyPorViva 05-14-2009 12:14 AM

Or simply allow a custom reason and a separate comment. That way staff can appropriately give what information the player needs, and staff can get all the additional info needed as well.

Inverness 05-14-2009 02:46 AM

Allow ban reasons and their durations to be set by server option.

Loriel 05-14-2009 03:54 AM

Just ban everyone, this hassle is not worth it.

cbk1994 06-21-2009 08:22 AM

bump

Quote:

-------- (on Unholy Nation) (Sun Jun 21 02:11:18 2009):
i am banned for javascript in mass messages even though i didnt use it

why?

cbk1994 08-04-2009 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1500691)
bump

bump again

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unknown (on Zodiac) (Tue Aug 04 04:00:42 2009):
So where do you get the logic I stole account from other players....?


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