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fa12 04-04-2009 05:19 PM

Being able to de-saint was fun imo and I think it should be brought back.

Kill 04-04-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480916)
you summarised what?

I summarised in bullet points rather than explain each one since people like yourself don't read the above content. It's why you replied with questions, because you didn't read the full opening post:
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Originally Posted by Kill (Post 1480896)
  • People no longer PK just to keep their 100AP.
  • The AP System promotes idling.
  • It has a negative effect on PK'ing.
  • It promotes laming.
  • Those that want to PK - can't, because of people with 100AP.

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480916)
actually mighty is not even pking anymore , how can he lame?

Exactly my point. He doesn't PK until he gets a really high AP, and then goes to level14 to PK because he has higher HP than everyone else and in the process gains 3x more kills than deaths because of it.
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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480916)
people that have 100ap mean THEY DONT WANT TO PK , isnt that logic

I was explaining to you, in reply to this:
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this one i cant rly understand why its bad

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480916)
not really a BIG difference its would make

May not be a big difference, but it certainly is a positive change.
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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480916)
well whatever you say , mighty is my friend yes , but i did not vote because i saw his name. if your trying to start any false accusation you might as well shut up lol

Denial. It's the first stage of where you know someone is right.
Listen, I said I wasn't trying to be rude -- he's obviously a very close friend to you since you have him in your profile with a special heart.
Aww, cute.

xnervNATx 04-04-2009 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kill (Post 1480919)


May not be a big difference, but it certainly is a positive change.

for YOU its may be positive , wat about everyone else?

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Denial. It's the first stage of where you know someone is right.
Listen, I said I wasn't trying to be rude -- he's obviously a very close friend to you since you have him in your profile with a special heart.
Aww, cute.
oh yea , your not in it , are you jealous or something?

Kill 04-04-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480925)
for YOU its may be positive , wat about everyone else?

It's not really just for me. I raised valid points for staff to realise the flaws in the current system,
so because I want everyone to fight fair I'm being selfish?!

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480925)
oh yea , your not in it , are you jealous or something?

2nd stage is when you justify behaviour; you've justified it with 'jealousy', which doesn't tackle the original assumption I made at all but lays an ignorant eye on the matter.

xnervNATx 04-04-2009 05:45 PM

whatever you say. but still you sound like staff will listen to all of your thread and act.

Kill 04-04-2009 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480931)
whatever you say.

Final stage is completely ignoring the matter.
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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480931)
but still you sound like staff will listen to all of your thread and act.

Before I made this thread, I knew it would be seen as a stupid thread simply because people can't realise the flaws behind it since they haven't been a victim and because the AP System has been around for so long without people realising these flaws. I mean, if it's been around with no one reporting anything, surely it's perfect right? :rolleyes:

I do not expect it to be removed, that is indeed a radical thing to do - I've simply presented reasons of why it sucks for staff to take note and change it for the good of everyone.

xnervNATx 04-04-2009 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kill (Post 1480932)
Final stage is completely ignoring the matter.

ill say it once again, its not because his name was there that i voted not to remove it , your so fking stupid kill

Kill 04-04-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480933)
ill say it once again, its not because his name was there that i voted not to remove it

Simply denying it isn't enough proof.

xnervNATx 04-04-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kill (Post 1480935)
Simply denying it isn't enough proof.


like u said it before , most people like me do not read huge ass paragraphs, and you pointed out that i readed it. but in a previous post i asked questions without knowing what you said in your first post. is that enought for you

Kill 04-04-2009 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480936)
like u said it before , most people like me do not read huge ass paragraphs, and you pointed out that i readed it. but in a previous post i asked questions without knowing what you said in your first post. is that enought for you

So you read the bottom summary part, correct?
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Originally Posted by Kill (Post 1480896)
Tldr;
Why the AP System sucks:
  • ...
  • Loophole in the system which people such as Mighty and TheDae abuse.

I mentioned him a couple of times in the opening post. Even if you skim read it, ofcourse you'll see his name.

Mighty 04-04-2009 06:09 PM

lol where did you get my name from? I barely pk even when I actively played?

I think this thread is rediculous, if it really bothers you, there's always a pkzone nearby. the only change I'd like to see is the saints being able to get hit by weapons again

Kill 04-04-2009 06:12 PM

Don't play dumb. You know exactly what you're doing, you idle up until around 60 to 100AP and then come PK people in Level14, and when people like myself have died consecutively until you get to 3hp - you go back to idle again.
How is that not lame or not abusing a loophole in the AP System?

xnervNATx 04-04-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kill (Post 1480939)
Don't play dumb. You know exactly what you're doing, you idle up until around 60 to 100AP and then come PK people in Level14, and when people like myself have died until you get to 3hp - you go back to idle again. How is that not lame or not abusing a loophole in the AP System?

you getting lamed doesnt prove ANYTHING about mighty OR dae laming too, mystic lame me alot when i log on and do you see me crying over graal forum?

Mighty 04-04-2009 06:17 PM

I didn't say it was not, I agree that it is and I would gladly admit to doing it if I were but I'm not and that's enough said from me about this, not going to argue about it.

Unpredlctable 04-04-2009 06:22 PM

mighty and thedae how could u i am so disappointed


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