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TESTRETIS 03-03-2009 10:23 PM

He's more of a dictator than a manager.

Rufus 03-03-2009 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TESTRETIS (Post 1471074)
He's more of a dictator than a manager.

So what does a manager do? How does he dictate?

Oni 03-03-2009 10:29 PM

Please, if a new manager is chosen don't make another mistake.
Thor can not be manager, everyone knows how closed minded he is with his projects and his views towards graal.

DarkCloud_PK 03-03-2009 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TESTRETIS (Post 1471074)
He's more of a dictator than a manager.

how can you be a dictator if you do nothing?
hes like the opposite of a dictator.
thats the problem.

maximus_asinus 03-03-2009 10:34 PM

Sadly I don't think we'll have a meaningful debate on Storm's position because the thread instantly became a campaign for Manager.

Oni 03-03-2009 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TESTRETIS (Post 1471074)
He's more of a dictator than a manager.

No offence to this but this was a pretty stupid thing to say. Storm does absolutely nothing, and makes no major decisions/changes.
Dictators make HUGE changes and have people put in a lot of work. Which storm doesn't.

DarkCloud_PK 03-03-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1471078)
Sadly I don't think we'll have a meaningful debate on Storm's position because the thread instantly became a campaign for Manager.

Well, you naturally need a replacement if someone should be removed,

Bell 03-03-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PH@NTOM (Post 1471063)
Two people who are manager, for example DC and Thor, this way they can look over one another's shoulder, I don't know though that's just my input! :cool:

Thats basically what it is now. Masterstorm and Thor. Thor handles development, Storm watches over the admins and listens to players complaints. In addition when time permits he helps out Night with some GC stuff or Thor if Thor asks.

xnervNATx 03-03-2009 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bell (Post 1471082)
Thats basically what it is now. Masterstorm and Thor. Thor handles development, Storm watches over the admins and listens to players complaints. In addition when time permits he helps out Night with some GC stuff or Thor if Thor asks.

did i read the word help? masterstorm and the word help do not belong in the same sentence

jorollychu 03-03-2009 11:09 PM

when do all those NPCs in limbo get released as GC prizes?

DarkCloud_PK 03-03-2009 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jorollychu (Post 1471092)
when do all those NPCs in limbo get released as GC prizes?

It's a possibility for a few of them.

MysticX2X 03-03-2009 11:19 PM

Reality is that not much can even be done with Storm out of the way because of this preservation for Classic. But Storm does a lot less than what the normal manager does. He should dictate how development goes all in all. Thor is there to watch over the dev staff and lead projects (as well as other things). Storm just shouldn't "help", he should be the one casting the show here.

He claims that he is always responding to players which gets in the way of his work time, but that is doubtful with Classic's playercount. I remember Subzero and Crowfeather, former managers of UN, being able to answer my PM's and several other peoples and get **** done as well as act on player inputs.

Rufus 03-03-2009 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X (Post 1471105)
But Storm does a lot less than what the normal manager does.

Aside from what is mentioned in what I've quoted below, what does "the normal manager" do?

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X (Post 1471105)
He should dictate how development goes all in all. Thor is there to watch over the dev staff and lead projects (as well as other things). Storm just shouldn't "help", he should be the one casting the show here.

This may be the staff hierarchy of many servers, but it is not what happens on Classic and I'm not sure it ever has. The person in charge of the development leads the direction of the server development, not the manager. It is true that the manager should be discussing the direction of the server, but in the times that I've spoken to Storm about the server direction he seems to be aware of what the development teams have wanted to go in, which suggests he does do this.

TESTRETIS 03-03-2009 11:35 PM

By Dictator, I meant he wants to be in charge, and is stubborn like one and won't step down.

Oni 03-04-2009 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X (Post 1471105)
Reality is that not much can even be done with Storm out of the way because of this preservation for Classic.................................... Storm just shouldn't "help", he should be the one casting the show here.

.................................................. . I remember Subzero and Crowfeather, former managers of UN, being able to answer my PM's and several other peoples and get **** done as well as act on player inputs.

Wow, well said. :)


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