I would like to know there is a need for two of these threads.

To be honest, i love you Garrett, but horrible idea.

If I was asked a few months ago I would have said yes. But Kingdoms just went through a huge management change. Development is actually happening. But I do think people who have been playing longer should get a discount for resubscribing like in the old days.

I would enjoy that, instead of paying $50 bucks a month. Was $35 or so when I re-subscribed last time.

I miss the old 19.99 a year. Now it's 49.39 a year, basically 50$.

Which is ridiculous, hell, that's what a year of Xbox Live costs, and you can do more with that.

You're telling me, i would never resubscribe. The £ is hella week now and their asking for £35 basically, it used to cost me like £12-14.50, which i could deal with, as it would hardly buy much booze n weed. But £35?! I'd rather buy an 1/8 and a bottle of hennesey :p.

And you can't get a plain subscription anymore you have to buy Gelats to pay for subscriptions.

You fail to realize that the subscription nowadays is for all servers and not just specific one(s). Cheaper price, bigger package. Plus you can chose to use the Gelats month-by-month, thus pausing the subscription if the need should arise.

It was like that to begin with, it just wasn't as expensive. Plus there where no Gelats. Then they changed it to GK and Zone subscription, which worked out well for me. Even with the older system you could get the same Gold package.

How is it cheaper price now? I used to pay £14 for a year of gold + lifetime classic, or £19 for a years VIP. Now it's £35 all inclusive for the year w/o lifetime classic. Thats more than a 100% rise since you could value lifetime classic at quite a bit considering how much a years classic costs now.

The current package is what used to be:

• Lifetime Classic (althought not lifetime anymore)
• Kingdoms Gold
• Zone Gold
• Playerworlds Gold

And if you want to get really technical, it's a lot cheaper then these were combined:

• Lifetime Classic + # months of Gold
• # months of Gold
• VIP

Than there wouldn't be much incentives to buy a Gold subscription which also leads to Graal losing revenue.

I think it used to be about $60 at one time for a gold account for a full year...Can't remember right off anymore.

Now its what? $49? $45?

lol used to cost me $25 for a full year of zone/gk.

its around $50 now canadian. Not worth the money anymore in my eyes.