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Spyder5782 07-16-2001 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Asuka
*cough* karakaze troupe *cough*
?


Oh, and play CS with me!

Birdbird_0 07-16-2001 05:09 PM

-_- I am putting 200% in redoing Dustari to make it full rp, to make it so you are tought how to rp in the town below it, and redoing everything, this might save what is elft with the rp system in graal2001 ::takes out a goat:: *splat splat splat* there no more Outlaws -_- if you havent noticed I have gone gothic.

Fai 07-16-2001 05:19 PM

WTFZX

"OUTLAWZ" are not sparring masters cause *I* am

Admins 07-16-2001 07:57 PM

Yes the sparring thing was a little bit messed up

Hmmmm Brad has made some little RP events before
so I didn't thought its a problem to add a tag
helper for them, it doesn't mean that they are a
kingdom.

About kingdoms/role playing: we are preparing
something for that, but it needs to be secret.
Please don't make everyone down who
wants to have fun on Graal2001. Like I said
you cannot just say that thing is role-playing,
that is not role-playing. If there are too many
people running around and doing pking or
messing up things then we need to make
something so that they don't mess up things.
Any ideas are welcome for that.

Admins 07-16-2001 07:59 PM

Oh yes forgot to say: that supervisor-npc should
be removed if its abused by police
(spying at people who are not doing illegal
stuff is abuse of power!)

Vash 07-16-2001 08:01 PM

Youre the one to call the shots Stefan :D

But theres still 298797907098709869875 kingdoms

Admins 07-16-2001 09:03 PM

There are the kingdoms
Dustari, Samurai, Zormite, Pirate Crew,
and some bigger guilds like
Bomy Gang, Baddies, Outlaws

07-16-2001 09:43 PM

What Dante said is right, and what Gonmon said was 100% wrong.

Brad DID run out and recruit a bunch of people, and that was not very smart.

Karakaze Troupe was made to rip people off and do exactly what Outlaws are trying to do. GRAAL2001 DOESN'T NEED ANOTHER KARAKAZE TROUPE. The Troupe was soon hated and basically exiled, due to the fact that everyone was after them. Outlaws seem to be posing Karakaze in the sense that they're trying to do the same thing.

This isn't a kingdom.

Oh, and if Outlaws are a mockery of the rest of the kingdoms, why have them? You see, that's the problem. You can't ROLEPLAY if there are people who MOCK roleplaying around! That's exactly what Outlaws are doing.

Also, since Brad just recruited everyone, and since Gonmon thinks he's "teaching them how to roleplay," doesn't that mean Brad has to be able to roleplay himself? I honestly don't think he can. When I was Empress of Samurai, we had a battle with the Pirate Crew. He was Lookout then. During the battle, whenever he died, he just kept fighting over and over again. That's not roleplaying. If he was roleplaying, he'd try to heal, go to the church (I know Dante was there), things like that.

On a lighter note, you can't teach people to roleplay. People basically have to learn how themselves, or just watch people roleplay many, many times. I've ran many online RPGs in my internet-lifetime, and I know that to be true.


Sigh. Stefan, Outlaws just won't work.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 07-16-2001 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
There are the kingdoms
Dustari, Samurai, Zormite, Pirate Crew,
and some bigger guilds like
Bomy Gang, Baddies, Outlaws

Yes I am glad you are letting at least some guilds on new main, it's brings a different perspective to the whole Kingdom/guild relationship. You don't see Bomy Gang and Baddies participate in Kingdom games do you? You don't see them RP at all either... so why call them a kingdom? They are just a guild with a meeting place

Sjc2k1 07-16-2001 10:04 PM

but outlaws paticipates in the kingdom games and stefan states they are a big guild

07-16-2001 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sjc2k1
but outlaws paticipates in the kingdom games and stefan states they are a big guild
Bingo. Something needs to be done.

Rohar 07-16-2001 10:11 PM

Role Playing ruined this server in the first place. It was obviously one of the last things Stefan wanted to happen to it. This wasn't designed to be an RP server in the first place, wasn't it? That's why a RPing server should be made that's almost on par with Graal2001 in innovations and nearly the same caliber of new features. The kingdoms could all be transfered there and it would no longer be Stefan's responsibility, thus ridding him of several worries and letting him focus on more important things.

Admins 07-16-2001 10:14 PM

Yes Graal2001 was not designed for role-playing

I think for most people it is hard to do
role-playing when they don't have the right
environment or are forced to play different roles.

All I can say is that we are working on it...

G_yoshi 07-16-2001 10:17 PM

I will say it again...if anyone is willing to do the work, they can setup rping on my pw :D I will try to help, but I am still busy putting other stuff together and things like that...

email me if interested :)

07-16-2001 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
Yes Graal2001 was not designed for role-playing

I think for most people it is hard to do
role-playing when they don't have the right
environment or are forced to play different roles.

All I can say is that we are working on it...

This is replying to both Rohar and Stefan:

If graal wasn't designed for roleplaying, THEN WHY THE HECK WERE KINGDOMS ACCEPTED IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

Stefan, a word of advice: if you are going to say that there won't be any roleplaying, or it wasn't designed for it, just don't have kingdoms and let people go to playerworlds like Valikorlia to roleplay. It's as simple as that.


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