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Cubes 01-04-2006 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx
Zormite's changed. I don't like a kingdom that allows 'KNOWN' scammers into the kingdom. I've tried to give new Zormite a chance, but when they've accused me of scamming I look at it different.

Dustari is all I have to say to that. There are alot of nice people in there but are also a few bad apples.

xAndrewx 01-04-2006 11:04 PM

I'm not too sure who's a 'bad apple' in Dustari, anyhow let's stick on topic.
So, what're the plans for Zormite to find Okiara?

Matthew White 01-04-2006 11:06 PM

All what has been handed down has said is that she will return when the world lives in harmony as the Zormite do. We as priests assume this means when all wars have ended, and the archipelago lives in peace.

xAndrewx 01-04-2006 11:08 PM

Zormite won't live in harmony. You've allready began a war with Samurai.

Cubes 01-04-2006 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx
I'm not too sure who's a 'bad apple' in Dustari, anyhow let's stick on topic.
So, what're the plans for Zormite to find Okiara?

I don't want to say names because of the bickering I would most likly hear and some of them are cool people except for the Scamming.

Zero Hour 01-04-2006 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx
Zormite won't live in harmony. You've allready began a war with Samurai.

Who is it that's saying we're going to bring back Okiara?

You're really starting to rub my fur the wrong way, Andrew.

GoZelda 01-04-2006 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
Who is it that's saying we're going to bring back Okiara?

Who said that someone said that you're bringing back Okiara?

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Originally Posted by Matthew_White
when the world lives in harmony as the Zormite do.

That's what Andrew commented on.

And Matthew: This is the forums. By using tags (()) you are breaking the RP rules rather than following them, as you don't need to use them when the enviroment already is OOC.

GryffonDurime 01-05-2006 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew White
All what has been handed down has said is that she will return when the world lives in harmony as the Zormite do. We as priests assume this means when all wars have ended, and the archipelago lives in peace.

It must be fun to magically ignore the constant internal conflict that is indicative of the Empire's very exsistance: the Sahuagin, the Zaeri, and now Humanity aren't going to coexsist peacefully. They all want a corner of the power for themselves.

That being said, the main problem I can find with your interpretation of the religion is that you've warmed up Monday's meatloaf and mixed it into Tuesday's left over spagetti noodles with Wednesday's stale french bread. If you're going to create an amalgamation, it can only be as good as it's parts, and none of those iterations of Zormitian religion were very good. If your only excuse is that there was no documentation, why not go to a LIVE source?

Matthew White 01-05-2006 03:22 AM

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... a war with samurai
While that may be true, what I meant about living in harmony, is the Zormites and the humans. Okiara's return is heralded when the nations are in harmony with one another as the fish people and the humans live together in harmony on Zormite.

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Your comments are well founded, but as the religious leader, this is what I was taught by our elders, our historians, and our archives. If the problem is with Zormite history's interpretation in general, it is as useless to discuss as whether or not Catholicism is more correct than Anglicism, Protestantism, etc. On such things I will not comment.

GryffonDurime 01-05-2006 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew White
Your comments are well founded, but as the religious leader, this is what I was taught by our elders, our historians, and our archives. If the problem is with Zormite history's interpretation in general, it is as useless to discuss as whether or not Catholicism is more correct than Anglicism, Protestantism, etc. On such things I will not comment.

However, you have to opportunity now to further rectify this by at least learning of and possibly integrating the older and unwritten Zormitian oral traditions, given that your predecessors are all quite vociferous about it when asked. The current iteration of the Zormitian faith seems not only muddled, but dedicated to mutual appeasment in the form of such a gestalt.

Matthew White 01-05-2006 06:49 AM

(( Gryffon. Largely my predecessors are unreachable, for a variety of reasons, with the exception of Jhanaki. Other than that, I do not know any of the others. Jhanaki has been Chaokir since Zen, and was doing a fine job. He left when Wren entered, then I entered and had to remove his account as Chaokir. Beyond that, we redid the ranks. The nature of this nation is one of change, and I've appended that as best I can. Mutual appeasment is not a terrible way to describe this, considering I'm trying to be all inclusive of several people with very different stories. I urge you to point out specific flaws, otherwise, ;) ))

Myukoi 01-05-2006 07:38 PM

It sucks to see so many negative comments. I'm so proud to be in the only Kingdom that is actually doing posts like this and working hard. The only problem I have with Zormite is that some of the Serf's get on my nerves but besides that I love it.

GoZelda 01-05-2006 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew White
(( Gryffon. Largely my predecessors are unreachable, for a variety of reasons, with the exception of Jhanaki. Other than that, I do not know any of the others. Jhanaki has been Chaokir since Zen, and was doing a fine job. He left when Wren entered, then I entered and had to remove his account as Chaokir. Beyond that, we redid the ranks. The nature of this nation is one of change, and I've appended that as best I can. Mutual appeasment is not a terrible way to describe this, considering I'm trying to be all inclusive of several people with very different stories. I urge you to point out specific flaws, otherwise, ;) ))

You don't have to put the bracers in the forums, because the forums already are OOC :):):):D:D:D:D

Zurkiba 01-09-2006 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew White
(( Gryffon. Largely my predecessors are unreachable, for a variety of reasons, with the exception of Jhanaki. Other than that, I do not know any of the others. Jhanaki has been Chaokir since Zen, and was doing a fine job. He left when Wren entered, then I entered and had to remove his account as Chaokir. Beyond that, we redid the ranks. The nature of this nation is one of change, and I've appended that as best I can. Mutual appeasment is not a terrible way to describe this, considering I'm trying to be all inclusive of several people with very different stories. I urge you to point out specific flaws, otherwise, ;) ))

Zormite Elders and Historians:
Googi
Zurkiba
Nappa
Maybe Brad?

Everyone else is mainly full of crap, you must remember that the leaders of the 2k2 Zormite nation were elected through a popularity contest. So then Toran was elected as the Emperor in which he decreed that the Zormites magically became humans (your history officially records Zen as the first human leader however). He had two advisors: Hippie and Zen. Toran quit, Hippie took control and said that Zormite would go back to traditions and back to a fish-only club again. Zen pulled his weight (as he is/was Global GFX Admin of Graal) and took the leadership role for himself, in which he said that Zormite would be all human and moreso, it would become a "Republic" which utterly destroyed anything Zormite held within. The Zormite history that you know of starts there, the history you know is basicly a false testiment to any kind of Zormite lore.

Moreso, I just want to call your religious stuff wrong. Zormite isn't some European Theocracy, it's a Zormite Theocracy. There's a difference.


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(And seeing how I can only post once every eight hours I'll just go ahead and reply to comments about the Wiki (that is if they see it):

Googi - Fix it, Hiryuu made all the history up to himself, then from Zardogan to Zarnage it was written by Chris Kill'em. From there on out I wrote it with help from Nappa. Or I found those Emperors to help me out.

Brad - You can add your own little thing there. But quite frankly, and dont get mad at me, nothing happened during your reign (plus the fact that it lasted about a week or two). I know we sat at the throne room and that's about it. I also didn't include the other Emperors-for-a-week because there were so many of them, they didn't do anything important or notable, and I dont even remember the huge list that encompasses them. This time is generally refered to as the Zormite dark age, where there was a new leader every week and the maximum player count for Zormite was three people (offline and online).

Googi 01-09-2006 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zurkiba
it would become a "Republic" which utterly destroyed anything Zormite held within.

It's legitimate for leader to make a kingdom into a republic (even though we don't like it), although changing the race (to human or to drow) is powergaming.


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