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Demisis_P2P 09-27-2005 07:22 AM

Era had the Apache Sniper Rifle which was a mouseclick gun, it rocked.
Mind you it still showed a bullet that moved in similar fashion to the other bullets on Era and could be dodged, but it allowed the bullet to be fired in 360 degrees.

I don't want to address the issue of realism in Graal because it has already been addressed 12396712934 times and just causes fights. Unholy Nation is stupidly unrealistic, but Era is/was a happy medium and I liked being able to dodge bullets; it added another element to fighting and made fights longer - your idea simply replaces the dodging aspect with a more tactic based approach.

I, personally, don't really like this idea and am dubious about it's application to the Graal engine.

That's just my opinion though ^_^ I'm sure you could combat some of my points but with only one post a day I'm not really up for debating them.

haro41 09-27-2005 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P
- your idea simply replaces the dodging aspect with a more tactic based approach.


yeah your right, this would give alot more importance to where your fighting. tactics replaces dodging skills.

RogueShatterblade 09-27-2005 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
It better be damned innovative. Few things are more bothersome inspection-wise to the PWA than an Era clone.

*hands you a tampon* You're making a mess.

Chris 09-27-2005 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RogueShatterblade
*hands you a tampon* You're making a mess.

loollolo

Good_Ol_Daze 09-27-2005 09:31 PM

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- and of course experience. a system could be made where a soldier can upgrade his marksmanship to improve his shooting skills, decreasing aiming time or reticule overall size.

Leave these RPG elements with Zenkou please, not every game needs an experience system to provide the player with improvements. If your system is as dynamic as it sounds, the player would accumulate REAL experience with the weapons and the system, and just get better. This puts everyone on as equal a playing field as possible, without the need to suppliment false experience for real experience.

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Yes my good man, those diagrams are lovely, but you are showing them on a 3d pallette. I am asking you to show how you intend on projecting this idea onto a 2d, graal surface.

haro41 09-27-2005 11:00 PM

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wel think about it. yeah they can get better within their own skill as a player, but their character can also get better skillwise as well. im sure it wouldnt be very drastic at all anyway. at most 20 % improvements all around. upgrades and experience systems add depth to a game, something seriously lacking from current playerworlds.
it seems your thinking about this like a soldier vs. a terminator.

the line of sight system can probably be best explained as a first person shooter without the first person view. and a picture.

Curt1zzle 09-27-2005 11:59 PM

Diagrams! +1.


Will we be able to purchase eyes for the backs of our heads? :o

haro41 09-28-2005 12:49 AM

well i figured it might be annoying to be unable to see whats directly behind you, so you can call that audible sensing. AKA HEARING.

Admins 09-28-2005 02:15 AM

Probably would require some scripting to show black showpolys to hide things, but it should be possible. On Graal Kingdoms we do that for the labyrinth event, just need some additional check for npcs to hide things behind them.

zim5354 09-28-2005 04:40 AM

i dont think your person should be able to upgrade his line of sight and hearing distence its more of a rpg type of things and rpgs and shooters dont seem to mix well

UberModeKappa 09-28-2005 05:13 AM

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That definitely wasn't an orriginal idea...It's been brought up /several/ times.

I however, hate it, and think it's trying to make a 2d client something that it isn't meant to be.

i.e. Sequence
It had all of this except line of sight; it was planned but was never made because of a lack of funds/scripters.

Everyone hated the mouse controlled guns too =(.

multychoice 09-28-2005 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Curt1zzle
Diagrams! +1.


Will we be able to purchase eyes for the backs of our heads? :o

Just like real life :}

Dach 09-28-2005 04:04 PM

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I had already scripted a basic outline of your aiming system, therefore I'll just post this to help you along. It's not GS2, but it's also not very complex so it's not like it'd be hard to convert over.

On a side note, the point of view system you mentioned would require some fairly advanced math. You may have a hard time getting that done.

haro41 09-29-2005 04:58 AM

id like to point out that im not developing this as a playerworld. i merely posted the info out to the community just for comments and for anyone else willing to try it

Ham-HamT 09-29-2005 07:04 PM

lol.


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