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tlf288 07-31-2003 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by TribulationStaff

Props also to Kai, for I recall he used the same property for one of his scripts.

Hey, I did it before to!

Kaimetsu 07-31-2003 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by TribulationStaff
I suppopse it would be, but to a mathematician, its something you don't see until late sophomore or early junior year.
No? I would think it would be obvious as soon as the person is taught about different numeric bases. Personally I invented the principle for myself when I was working on a VB project four years ago ^_^

TribulationStaff 07-31-2003 08:10 AM

Well, linear independance of sets, and set theory at all, for that matter, isn't discussed at all until college. In fact, I would be surprised if any pure mathematics beyond geometry is taught anywhere in the USA's K-12 educational system.

Kaimetsu 07-31-2003 08:15 AM

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Originally posted by TribulationStaff
Well, linear independance of sets, and set theory at all, for that matter, isn't discussed at all until college. In fact, I would be surprised if any pure mathematics beyond geometry is taught anywhere in the USA's K-12 educational system.
Perhaps so; I wasn't taught true set theory until partway into my CS degree. On the other hand, set theory is just a way to describe the property in a formal fashion. You can understand it intuitively without being able to represent it mathematically.

tlf288 07-31-2003 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by TribulationStaff
In fact, I would be surprised if any pure mathematics beyond geometry is taught anywhere in the USA's K-12 educational system.
We have Trig and Calc in my highschool, dude.

TribulationStaff 07-31-2003 08:26 AM

Calculus is an applied math. Calculus is the math behind a great deal of physics and engineering. Admittedly, geometry is too, but the proofs learned in geometry are pure math.

As for trig, well it is an applied math too. All sorts of physical things like sextants are based on trigonometry.

tlf288 07-31-2003 08:43 AM

So, you're saying calculus and trig just tell you how to apply what you already know?

Projectshifter 07-31-2003 08:43 AM

Wow, you guys are getting too deep into math =p
I forgot about the move command o_O... perhaps it will actually be less laggy and more efficient in a baddy.... [ponder]...[/ponder]
I don't really like doing things that move, and I've been meaning to make a baddy forever, but everytime I start I hate it... Maybe move would be beneficial XP.
---Shifter

TribulationStaff 07-31-2003 08:45 AM

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So, you're saying calculus and trig just tell you how to apply what you already know?
It's a fuzzy line to be sure, but basically, pure math consists of things, like proofs, which have absolutely no relation to reality. Was it Hardy who said that the less math has to do with reality the more beautiful it becomes? Applied maths are basically things, like calculus, that you can use in word problems.

Kaimetsu 07-31-2003 08:47 AM

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Originally posted by TribulationStaff
It's a fuzzy line to be sure, but basically, pure math consists of things, like proofs, which have absolutely no relation to reality. Was it Hardy who said that the less math has to do with reality the more beautiful it becomes? Applied maths are basically things, like calculus, that you can use in word problems.
I don't like such definitions. If somebody suddenly found a practical use for an area of pure maths, would it suddenly become applied? Maths shouldn't be classified by how it is used.

tlf288 07-31-2003 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by Projectshifter
Wow, you guys are getting too deep into math =p
I forgot about the move command o_O... perhaps it will actually be less laggy and more efficient in a baddy.... [ponder]...[/ponder]
I don't really like doing things that move, and I've been meaning to make a baddy forever, but everytime I start I hate it... Maybe move would be beneficial XP.
---Shifter

For something like a baddie you end up using the move command just like setting the x and y positions. Contact me on AIM if you want a script I made using the move command like you want to.

TribulationStaff 07-31-2003 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


I don't like such definitions. If somebody suddenly found a practical use for an area of pure maths, would it suddenly become applied? Maths shouldn't be classified by how it is used.

:grin:

Actually that has happened. Boolean algebra lay useless for about a century until computers were invented.

Also, tell that to the mathematicians. Pure mathematicians have a tendency to look down their noses at applied mathematicians like myself. And applied mathematicians tend to wonder why you need more than one way to prove that the square root of two is irrational.

Kaimetsu 07-31-2003 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by TribulationStaff
Pure mathematicians have a tendency to look down their noses at applied mathematicians like myself. And applied mathematicians tend to wonder why you need more than one way to prove that the square root of two is irrational.
Man, mathematicians are dorks. I'm glad I jumped off that train when I did.

TribulationStaff 07-31-2003 11:31 PM

*ponders*

Is being called a dork by a geek a good thing or a bad thing? Lol.

Is it a cool thing, like being called a mf by George Carlin?

[edit] Yes, Kai you are a geek. If you are the best scripter in any computer language you automatically qualify as a computer geek. Hooray for geeks :D [/edit]:

Projectshifter 08-01-2003 05:37 AM

Complex mathmatics are pointless to majority of people. Good thing there are people like Kai to bug ;)
---Shifter


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