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Soul-Blade 06-20-2003 05:54 AM

I just talked with Stefan about it, and he said scamming is illegal when you use a bug, glitch, or trainer. Also when you tell newbies false information concerning the game. He says, if you grab a item someone dropped, scamming is not illegal.

So as it turns out, I was correct. But it doesn't matter anymore, I was to harsh to Lyndzey and I am sorry about that.

DragonX 06-20-2003 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade
He says, if you grab a item someone dropped, scamming is not illegal.
I am sure he means that if someone is messing around and drops something and someone else picks it up, thats not scamming, but if both parties are engaging in a trade and one user fails to comply with the trade, that is illegal and they should be punished.

DenoriZakarum 06-20-2003 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX


I am sure he means that if someone is messing around and drops something and someone else picks it up, thats not scamming, but if both parties are engaging in a trade and one user fails to comply with the trade, that is illegal and they should be punished.

he didnt specify it, so for now, scamming is legal

Soul-Blade 06-20-2003 07:18 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX


I am sure he means that if someone is messing around and drops something and someone else picks it up, thats not scamming, but if both parties are engaging in a trade and one user fails to comply with the trade, that is illegal and they should be punished.

I asked Stefan specifically, and that is what he told me. If you drop something, doesn't matter the circumstance, then you no longer own it.

zell12 06-20-2003 09:05 AM

you are twisting his words and you can get banned for lieing.

Soul-Blade 06-20-2003 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
you are twisting his words and you can get banned for lieing.
Do you work on debug? Did you ask Stefan to be more specific on the scamming situation? Didn't think so. I do, and I did. Now shut your mouth...(people should be able to tell from this one of the reasons Excalibur was removed from debug ;-))

TripleE 06-21-2003 03:07 AM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade


Do you work on debug? Did you ask Stefan to be more specific on the scamming situation? Didn't think so. I do, and I did. Now shut your mouth...(people should be able to tell from this one of the reasons Excalibur was removed from debug ;-))

Why the hell do you make a big deal about this? You have stated that it is already cleared up on the circumstances.

protagonist 06-21-2003 03:47 AM

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Originally posted by DenoriZakarum


he didnt specify it, so for now, scamming is legal


Yes, and I bet that's music to your ears lamer.

Soul-Blade 06-21-2003 06:13 AM

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Originally posted by TripleE

Why the hell do you make a big deal about this? You have stated that it is already cleared up on the circumstances.

Well, I am just not one to stand by and watch a injustice unfold, especially when everyone is to blind/bias to see that it is indeed a injustice. I will make a big deal out of anything like that, big or small.

zell12 06-21-2003 06:34 AM

And THAT is why you should be removed. Constantly turning my words around to make them into nastly things then you tell stefan how bad I am at debug and get my fired. Wow, congradulations. I don't care.

Besides which, you cannot say stefan said anything on debug unless he says it here himself.

DenoriZakarum 06-21-2003 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
And THAT is why you should be removed. Constantly turning my words around to make them into nastly things then you tell stefan how bad I am at debug and get my fired. Wow, congradulations. I don't care.

Besides which, you cannot say stefan said anything on debug unless he says it here himself.

and you cant say he didnt say it ubnless he posts her, and yes protagonist, it will bring me much fun in the future

protagonist 06-21-2003 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade
stuff
Mhmm, and why people don't lame the hell out of Denori while blacklisting him from their kingdoms escapes me. If there truelly is such a thing as justice in this game, I think that people who steal shoud be punished.

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and you cant say he didnt say it ubnless he posts her, and yes protagonist, it will bring me much fun in the future
You have given me another reason to believe in God. Because if God truelly exists then so too does hell, which is where you will be spending eternity. Theif.

Soul-Blade 06-21-2003 08:05 PM

You people are idiots. There are people that PK, constantly, NEVER leaving you alone (Anu, Alex_6, just about every other powerful person) which brings you down hours of work.

Do you want them banned? There is a safegaurd to that, of course. Peaceful mode. The cost? You make 75% of the experience.

Scamming is something I look at as equal to PKing. Many people do it, and it is not retricted by a level. Safe gaurd? Trading tables and secure trade. Price? Taxes in secure trade, and occasional loss of items in trading tables. That, or loose everything possibly in unsecure trade.

You make the choice, just like you make the choice when you go into battle mode. You can blaim NOONE but youself when you get scammed, because you were the one who wasn't smart enough to use the safegaurds.

zell12 06-21-2003 09:58 PM

Scaming is illegal in real life and is in this game. Please just give up and stop this.

protagonist 06-21-2003 11:14 PM

I hate scammers. Theft is theft.


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