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davidpsy 11-13-2002 08:15 AM

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Originally posted by syltburk

What is Valkoria Staffs Problem=? :confused:

3 words they are ebil k? ;)

BeZeRkEr 11-13-2002 08:17 AM

Nemesis is back?

SingleChance 11-13-2002 12:39 PM

people can create fake private message logs easily as well.
sending an admin message is a good idea because when you send one i believe it shows that in the rc chat area, so the rest of the staff can also see that you warned the person .

Golbez 11-13-2002 10:18 PM

I'm GP Chief on Bravo and I found out staff don't like it when you use Admin Messages :/
Also if there in the middle of something admin messages disrupts them..
Half the times GP's don't get RC

Darlene159 11-14-2002 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by syltburk



so what ur sayin is that everybody has Admin Message Rights on Npulse? :asleep:

Vampiric is right about Valkoria.
They say they are aloud to pk and we are not.
One time when i whas online there a staff told me to stop pk him.
I did and then he start pk me, i go and heal goes back and he do the same again and again and again.
After i got killed some times he get bored and jail me.

What is Valkoria Staffs Problem=? :confused:

Um, all the people who are suppose to warn players, yes they have the rights to send admin messages

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Just send a admin message to player.. if you cant send admin message,try to warp to him/her and give the warning.
there is no proof if you warn on the game on screen

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people can create fake private message logs easily as well. sending an admin message is a good idea because when you send one i believe it shows that in the rc chat area, so the rest of the staff can also see that you warned the person .
No, it doesnt show up on RC, it use to be logged, but it isnt anymore...the only way to have proof now is to send via regualr PM

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Nemesis is back?
Did he ever leave??

HoudiniMan 11-14-2002 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159


Um, all the people who are suppose to warn players, yes they have the rights to send admin messages

some servers aren't so tight butted with staff behavior, maybe a faq warned them

Darlene159 11-14-2002 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by HoudiniMan


some servers aren't so tight butted with staff behavior, maybe a faq warned them

excuse me, kindly butt out if you arent going to read the posts beforehand....I was answering someones question that was directed to me....sheesh

Nemesis 11-14-2002 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by Okilian
i agree with warnings, just write it down in comments, they were warned once, then you just jail them. Now another problem that i think nemesis hit on is the fact of word vs. word. It happens so often that I stopped taking the fact of one person saying, so and so spar pked me unless they can prove it. Or i also will take it if it's like 3 people who saw the event. Sometimes people just say it to jail. warning thing is nice, got to pass it on
Sorry for replying so late. I had a comp problem, XP and Linux didn't like eachother with XP having corrupt files left and right. I'm up and running now, so I am good :P

Anyways the reason for the PM, is so that you have EVIDENCE of the warning and you have the whole conversation saved, and generally if you are caught log changing, then thats worse on the person, so obviously that is something that'll need to be addressed to, but if you warn, you have the evidence, but then again in personal experience, I Admin message to read the pm, and confirm with the player that they read the message or it is clear to me that they read it, and action can be taken appropriately.

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Originally posted by BeZeRkEr
Nemesis is back?
I never left, I'm always on...as a player...or researching or finding ways to get things done in a better manner than they are. Some may know with the questions I asked...but I've been distant from the forums, just for the sake that generally most things end up in arguements and fights, and all this...It's really bad to see, from when I left. Now I don't know but I just feel like the community would be stronger if we all worked to fix what was wrong instead of pointing fingers at this person and that person...so I just do what I can and come on here when I must, so obviously, thats something I have to address...but for now the radio thing is what I want, because it's something new and it'll get rid of midi's :P

Warcaptain 11-15-2002 03:18 AM

what about evidence?

any police can just say "you did this"

and warn and then say they did it


and the manager will take the polices word over a players any day
(i know, its happened to me)

im still banned on 2k1 because of that same incident

because cheetos told me "it doesnt matter about proof, he says it happened so it did"
then when i was given a trial, guess who was my judge, cheetos!

and i was supposed to prove why HACKING wasnt illigal, instead of prove why i didnt do it... which is stupid.

so evidence should be given before jailing, or have evidence.

even if its hacking or stealing accs.

Nemesis 11-15-2002 05:51 AM

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Originally posted by Warcaptain
what about evidence?

any police can just say "you did this"

and warn and then say they did it


and the manager will take the polices word over a players any day
(i know, its happened to me)

im still banned on 2k1 because of that same incident

because cheetos told me "it doesnt matter about proof, he says it happened so it did"
then when i was given a trial, guess who was my judge, cheetos!

and i was supposed to prove why HACKING wasnt illigal, instead of prove why i didnt do it... which is stupid.

so evidence should be given before jailing, or have evidence.

even if its hacking or stealing accs.

If you have correct logs of it...Of the conversation then obviously that is proof in itself and it must be documented some way some how. If you say "He did this" and provide no hard evidence then forget about it, it becomes an Admin's word vs. Player or Admin vs. Admin etc etc...it's a hassle

Spark910 11-16-2002 10:01 PM

And yes the Manager will mostly take staff words of players, as he/she should be able to trust staff and so feel they give the correct side of the story, which is mostly true but false in some cases. Its like saying, The president would only trust his staff to help if there was about to be a war, he wouldnt just trust any old bum off the street. So you see Managers trust and mostly support what staff say over players as they feel and should be able to trust what they say.

Timpan3 11-24-2002 06:47 AM

Now this ticks me off, the Classic Police Force. My friend gets warned for having his name as Dial-A-Newbie, which is similiar to Dial-A-Fish. But, my friend is not pointing ANYTHING out towards the GP, it's just a name similiar to the GP, why must that be so special, it's not like they will b**** if i were to copy a normal player's name. So me and a bunch of other people start naming oursefls with names similiar to this GP, heck, we even had names like Dial-A-Dialer [GPGPGPGPGPGPGPGPGPGP], but what's wrong with that, really? Because "we're not allowed to act as staff". And then, one of us puts on the name !Negro Casas which is spanish for Black House I believe, and another GP arrives at the scene (this all happened at Zol's) and calls this racism, which might be agreeable to some points, and then we rechange our nick to things like "A ZORMITE SAID I SUCK, GRAALIAN RACISM" and such things, for a laugh, because we frankly didn't take this "matter" seriously. And so, he says we're "Making fun of him" (Duo (GP)) and so he jails us, and some of us even got banned, while I didn't/ or haven't yet, it's unfair that others did, atleast in my opinon, so I ask, is this really suitable?

BeZeRkEr 11-24-2002 06:56 AM

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Originally posted by Timpan3
Now this ticks me off, the Classic Police Force. My friend gets warned for having his name as Dial-A-Newbie, which is similiar to Dial-A-Fish. But, my friend is not pointing ANYTHING out towards the GP, it's just a name similiar to the GP, why must that be so special, it's not like they will b**** if i were to copy a normal player's name. So me and a bunch of other people start naming oursefls with names similiar to this GP, heck, we even had names like Dial-A-Dialer [GPGPGPGPGPGPGPGPGPGP], but what's wrong with that, really? Because "we're not allowed to act as staff". And then, one of us puts on the name !Negro Casas which is spanish for Black House I believe, and another GP arrives at the scene (this all happened at Zol's) and calls this racism, which might be agreeable to some points, and then we rechange our nick to things like "A ZORMITE SAID I SUCK, GRAALIAN RACISM" and such things, for a laugh, because we frankly didn't take this "matter" seriously. And so, he says we're "Making fun of him" (Duo (GP)) and so he jails us, and some of us even got banned, while I didn't/ or haven't yet, it's unfair that others did, atleast in my opinon, so I ask, is this really suitable?
Negros is not a racist term
If you used the slang for a black person than yes but not negros

Timpan3 11-24-2002 07:30 AM

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Originally posted by BeZeRkEr


Negros is not a racist term
If you used the slang for a black person than yes but not negros

All he did was have his name as "! Negro Casas" EXACTLY (without the quotation marks), so it's not a slang towards anyone, now is it ?

Mykel 11-29-2002 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by Timpan3


All he did was have his name as "! Negro Casas" EXACTLY (without the quotation marks), so it's not a slang towards anyone, now is it ?

:/ well, i dunno, it depends on how he meant it. Which it doesnt seem he meant it that way.


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