Ok, clearing this up, this was partly my fault that my RC was not repaired... I had just set up a network before my IP changed and I hadn't yet gotten familiar with it. When I checked my IP my computer gave me the private IP the router gave to my PC, and not the IP of my cable modem, which was what was needed... I don't wish to go into mush more detail about that subject, but all I want to know is what does knowledge about networks have to do with managing a playerworld?... Also, lack of updates? Lack of staff... I looked for staff, but when I had my RC, anyone who applied didn't meet my standards... And when my RC broke, I had applications from people who I'm sure would do a good job.

Urizen, you say we totally changed the playerworld... We didn't, we added to it. We kept the exact same levels, we just added detail... The old ones were boring. Don't hold a grudge on me or the playerworld just because you were banned for some reason, which I know hardly anything about, a long time ago. Don't hold a grudge, just because the levels aren't the way you like them. I have plans for Rudora, I spent alot of the time on vacation, just thinking of things I could add to Rudora. I know the System NPC sucks, our former GM started it and never finished it, so I was either going to remove it, or hire someone to finish it. I thought PWs were supposed to be given an advanced notice if they weren't "Up to standards", whatever happened to that?... And why pick on Rudora? There are plenty of other PWs to shut down unexpectidly...

1.) Why would I try to brown-nose someone who doesn't play Graal anymore, on a Graal Online Forum that he doesn't read? Stop making accusations.

2.) Holding a grudge? I don't have anything against you. My problem is people who try to turn other people's playerworld into their own so they don't need to go through the submition process. If you have all these plans, why not create a playerworld of your own is all I'm saying. I actualy proposed a rule before all the stuff with Rudora happened that if a Playerworld's Manager is no longer the manager of a playerworld, unless he/she appointed somone to be the replacement manager 2 weeks in advance, the playerworld goes down with the manager. There are too many problems from playerworlds that have management problems, you would make manager number 4, and thats 2 too many. Please understand this isn't a policy right now, and probably wont be for sometime if ever. The fact is, it means something different to you when you create a world from nothing, go through the risk of it being rejected and all your hard work being for nothing... People who want to take over playerworlds simply want the rewards for an eighth of the work. Look at Babylon, they've been strugling aswell.

If you have so many ideas, build up a playerworld and submit it to be reviewed is all I'm saying.

Now, as for saying I'm just saying this because i don't like the new level style? First off, thats not true. I like the new style levels, as well as the old style; however, Rudora was initialy created to be a classic style server, it's origional intent was to be a town on Classic. As for saying the levels were too plain? What you consider plain, I consider fun, I don't mind the new tiling style, but try finding LAT's who are willing to spend hours on each level making every one a masterpice? Won't happen. So how can you possibly hope to expand the overworld in a timely fashion? This is my problem with the new style of levels, they look great, if people take there time, but thats the price, time, if you try to spit them out, they look horrible, and furthermore become distracting and un-planned-- Yes, I'm sick of walking in levels that have so called "natural" looking paths that twist and curve so badly you think everyone who's ever walked on it has two left feet, but I'm not even thinking about that when I look at Rudora. What I see is what was once the masterpice of one of the best LAT's Graal had for a long time, now, after all this time, instead of building on the vision, that alot of people love, they decided to spend all their time re-tiling levels that had alredy been worked on for a long time to make just right. Quests have been added, but they are all unorigional and filled with bugs, moreover they don't even fir the theme set by the origional quests. This is what happens once the creator is gone, the playerworld turns into a mess of contradicting visions, and fun value is lost. Yes, I think it's sad that a pice of work like Rudora had to be molested and bastardised like it has been, but I'm glad it's being taken down to pay some respect to the creator. How would you like it if you made a playerworld that you thought was perfect, you leave thinking you could trust a so-called friend to manage it, and come back and it's been re-tiled to the "plain" style, and stupid quests have been added? All I'm saying is that we need to have a bit more empathy. Playerworlds come and go. Rudora was overdue, thats all.

I'm sure a month will go by and you wont remember Rudora.

BTW, I was Banned by Duthight without cause, he accused me of trying to "kill" Rudora, when in reality I simply disagreed with it turning into what it is today, it's not my fault that as soon as I left it started to die... coincidence?

Urizen :(

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He didn't ignore anything, he was just disgusted because the owner couldn't figure out his own IP.

Tell me now. Are you going to continue arguing, or are you going to talk civilized about Rudora and it's removal?

*Puts hand on mouth*

I was bored :D

Urizen ;)

I was talking about that guy's "brown nosing comment." It wasn't necessary.

The plans I had were not to change Rudora, but to add it, a playerworld needs to develop, and that's what I was working so hard on.

I'm not saying you, there are lots of people who have plans for lots of playerworlds. It's just never really worked out in the past... I understand that it can be emotional to be in your position, but lets try to think about this clearly.

Urizen :(

Did I ever play Rudora? Yes.
Did I like what I saw on Rudora? Yes.
Should Rudora still be online? No.

Don't get me wrong, I did have a good time whenever I played on Rudora, and the staff and players were generally very nice. But the thing is, blame this on whomever you want, Rudora hasn't had a worthy player count in a long time. True, Rudora's content met the standards, but what's the use if you don't have what players want? Despite whatever was being planned, Rudora's had ample time to attract players.

Then there's the issue of the levels. Now, I realize that the developers on Rudora tried to update it to keep with the times, but quite honestly, when you edit a "classic" style level to fit in with modern times, it usually comes out looking pretty sloppy. The Rudora team somewhat-managed to make them look okay, but it's no comparison with the original version.

not that any of you care
 

Not that any of you care but this was the blade of graa that broke the camels back for me I will most likely quit graal now this is the 3rd server that I have grown to like and play on allot thats gone down first dolphonia then el now rudora I am fed up. And for all of you who are still wondering who the hell is this guy.
This might help I went by chris on dolphonia for a bit then Swamp for a while I got a NAT position on EL. And I was going by the name of Dunedain on Rudora and every where else recently.
I had a faq position on rudora. Oh and btw if you still dont know who I am this probobly wont help but I have been playing graal since 1.39 and know allot of the well known oldbies like the global guild admin TIKI and EYE of the Beholder and if you dont know these people your a noob


Thank you and good bye

Umm, then why only take down Rudora? why not take down the rest of the servers that only get a maximum of 10 players hmm?

what the hell are you talking about?? Rudora has some of the best quality levels i have ever seen on graal.


Bottom Line: Bring back Rudora, it is a good server and deserves to be back up.

Then i stuck up for u and got fired heh :(

They should be taken down too, but that's the PWA/Stefan's call. Why they took down Rudora, and not the others is a mystery to us all. :XA few months back, they did have good levels, but when you edit a "classic" level, it never looks as good as a fresh level, or the original level.It shouldn't be back just like that, but maybe the staff could find out what to do to attract players and create it, and then re-submit to the PWA for testing.

I agree, my comments were not called for and should not have been said, I should have kept that to my self, I appologise deeply for my child like actions towards you Urizen.

Well I see why you did what you did, but Alex Banned you because no matter what you said, Fox wasn't coming back, Nor was Old Rudora, So he just got annoyed so Banned you, I didnt think it was right, I unbanned you, lol, nearly got fired! =D

Why was the manager the only one who could set rights?
Wasn't there a co-manager?
If not thats understandable.
But what I find very odd is that only the manager can upload levels?
There is absoloutly no-one else on the server that can?
That is very odd.