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Shorty2Dope 04-21-2002 11:33 PM

Viper is a *****.. that is only obvious. Look at some of his post on the forums. He acts like an immature 10 year old crying over a game. He is so obsessed with Unixmad I think he is jealous or in love.

vsignasv 04-21-2002 11:52 PM

*Pings SG111*

Googi 04-22-2002 12:08 AM

Gah, the problem is that Viper said that he was going to take Graal down on April 20th, and that is when it happened. We should all get together and Ping SG111 at the same time :D

Spark910 04-22-2002 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZORG1986
"GraalOnline is crippled dead, don't take my word for it though, go check for yourselfs, and GraalOnline will remain injured and crippled or injured for weeks" - Viper, SG111
Haha I find that damn funny seen as it was only down for a day. What an idiot.

Lol and me!
Prpas hell do it again?

haunter 04-22-2002 12:19 AM

Looks to me like all this "Viper" fellow did was make a bunch of people hate him, and give the dogs a taste for meat. I bet they'll sue him.

Mman 04-22-2002 02:29 AM

I bet GO staff could get Viper in jail if they wanted to, but they have more important things at hand, like making money.

Echos 04-22-2002 02:36 AM

Does anyone read? SG111 had nothing to do with it. Sure, some of the stuff was on his site, but who posted it? Viper!!! Where is Logo on IRC when you need him.

Mman 04-22-2002 06:38 AM

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Originally posted by Echos
Does anyone read? SG111 had nothing to do with it. Sure, some of the stuff was on his site, but who posted it? Viper!!! Where is Logo on IRC when you need him.
Yes I read, not only did SG111 not have anything to do with the attack on Graal's servers, he also stated that he objected to them.


Quote:

Originally posted on SG111's website
Although I do not care for the way Graal is currently ran, I CANNOT agree with the methods that were employed today. There is a difference between giving a player an oppertunity to choose not to play Graal and making Graal unavailable to play! There is also a difference between being a low level thorn in a persons side and costing a company large amounts of money in downtime. What happened is wrong and should not have taken place.
I had heard rumblings of such a thing for a while but mistakenly assumed that they were only threats not to be taken seriously. I was wrong. I cannot view what has happened as any type of victory. If anything, it is a setback.
It's one thing to say "I hate the way Graal is run". It is another to crash the servers because you hate the way Graal is run.

Milkdude99 04-22-2002 07:19 AM

Re: Re: Re: Stefan/Unixmad - This Guys May Have Had Something To Do With Servers Going Down
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanko
Have you ever heard of DDoS attacks? Basically sending so much information to a server that it can't handle it anymore and shuts down?
It's quite likely that's what happened.

It is exactly what is being done from 20 different IPs and prolly will shut down Graal again.....:grrr:

WHIPENIE4 04-22-2002 07:21 AM

(X-Mann)
Everyone knows that man. I plan to take my own actions im sure unix does too.

Milkdude99 04-22-2002 07:21 AM

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Originally posted by Mman


Yes I read, not only did SG111 not have anything to do with the attack on Graal's servers, he also stated that he objected to them.




It's one thing to say "I hate the way Graal is run". It is another to crash the servers because you hate the way Graal is run.

ahh but they are as much to blame as Viper is, why?
Because they continued to let him post and post info to hack Graal with and where to get the programs from to do it , along with the port addresses , so they ARE JUST AS GUILTY AS VIPER IS>>>> And deserve whatever they get. If you go by that logic , just because the person driving the getway car in a bank robbery is not guilty because they did not go in the bank? I don't think so... they were accessories to the fact and it is adsurd to try to absolve them from any blame , they are the DAMN Launching pad from which this was done........
There are 20 different IP's hacking Graal right now and would not be that many IF THEY had not kept that info up...


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Snappledragon 04-22-2002 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Milkdude99


ahh but they are as much to blame as Viper is, why?
Because they continued to let him post and post info to hack Graal with and where to get the programs from to do it , along with the port addresses , so they ARE JUST AS GUILTY AS VIPER IS>>>> And deserve whatever they get. If you go by that logic , just because the person driving the getway car in a bank robbery is not guilty because they did not go in the bank? I don't think so... they were accessories to the fact and it is adsurd to try to absolve them from any blame , they are the DAMN Launching pad from which this was done........
There are 20 different IP's hacking Graal right now and would not be that many IF THEY had not kept that info up...


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Hey *****, it isnt against the law to talk about doing something against the law... what is against the law is doing ILLEGAL STUFF! SG111 neither talked about it, or helped in the doing of the act, which is even more evidence he should not be blamed. All he did was create a website, where people communicate... if terrorists planned to bomb some place over ICQ, should ICQ be shut down for allowing them to contact like that? No.

c0nsp1racy 04-22-2002 12:37 PM

Re: Re: Stefan/Unixmad - This Guys May Have Had Something To Do With Servers Going Down
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Flameuss


I don't think some stupid anti graal group can do anything that big. They might have forced server to shut down if they went to Germany, and forced it to shut down... (Pressed power Button) and unless they know any info about where server is it is impossible for them to do anything. They are helpless...

- Androk

are you a...... f*cking morn? go into dos do a netstat. look at all them pretty numbers k? Connect to the 2001 server do another netstat. Wow a new pretty number must be the 2001 ip and port :megaeek:

dun talk bout technical **** k? ***** you sound like 1 of them movies bout computers when they dun knoe wts they talkin bout like operation swordfish *****.

This guy and a couple other people got the server ip and pinged it with such big packets that if enough people did it the server would crash and that it did.

Milkdude99 04-23-2002 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snappledragon


Hey *****, it isnt against the law to talk about doing something against the law... what is against the law is doing ILLEGAL STUFF! SG111 neither talked about it, or helped in the doing of the act, which is even more evidence he should not be blamed. All he did was create a website, where people communicate... if terrorists planned to bomb some place over ICQ, should ICQ be shut down for allowing them to contact like that? No.

No join reality stupid if a terrorest group uses a website THEY ARE held responsible for it's content as accessories and it is shut down and they are arrested as such , check the laws ***** .... its called aiding and abeding in a crimimal offense ..... they can be held responsible and are as well as the site I have am responsible for what is on it. If some one uploads illegal MP3s to your site , your saying "hey I didn't put them there so I am not resonsible for them?" Horseshit the host will shut you down and delete your account for illegal activity why? because it will fall back to them in a court of law thats why and they will be sued by the owners of the MP3s and this is no different , so grow up and face the real world children....

Milkdude99 04-23-2002 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snappledragon


Hey *****, it isnt against the law to talk about doing something against the law... what is against the law is doing ILLEGAL STUFF! SG111 neither talked about it, or helped in the doing of the act, which is even more evidence he should not be blamed. All he did was create a website, where people communicate... if terrorists planned to bomb some place over ICQ, should ICQ be shut down for allowing them to contact like that? No.

And you talk as if you were one of the "offending persons " attacking Graal so maybe your IP needs to be checked against those that are attacking Unixmads comp.....:megaeek:


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