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Kasuagi 01-17-2002 09:24 PM

I love the idea, this is perfect. but you have to think about other people as well. an example, the staff on the server. would they be paid? think about it, a good
p2p server starts raking in loads and loads of money, it all goes towards the owner. wouldn't people become jealous and get mad? they'd want a part of the share, because it's their work too

Stefan obviously doesn't want to shell out more money either, he already states that he doesn't get enough revenue from Graal (I think) and paying p2p owners a percent, how much would they be paid? too many variables, but maybe it would work

I have little hope for Graal anymore, look at what all has happened. it's sad, and there is nothing I can do about it

hopefully Stefan will invest his time in this idea, it's for a good cause

BlKnight 01-17-2002 09:28 PM

Well, also staff could try to con an owner out of his position. For instance, if this worked, and Murasamune went online and was successful, I would pay W-Dragoon 50% of what is earned. The rest of staff would get nothing, simply because the have done nothing. What if, considering everything I said was true, the staff which does nothing then lies about them making most everything? The owner has just wasted hours, days of his life making something whiched was stolen from him...all this could happen simply from greed.

AlkarenHyralt 01-17-2002 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0
humm, its a good proposition, but I don't think some of the work that people put in their pw's are worth paying them for, some yes, but some no. But it wouldn't be fair if only the owners got it, because, most of the time, its the owners that sit on their butts and watch the team do all the work. I say, its up to Unixmad and other reviewrs to decied that =p
I agree with that.

But, I do like kon's idea. It might put a bit more professionalism (sp) in the creation and managing of playerworlds.

freddyfox 01-17-2002 09:31 PM

No.

If we did that, we'd have hundreds of people making desperate grabs to get a P2P playerworld online.

Shorty2Dope 01-17-2002 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by freddyfox
No.

If we did that, we'd have hundreds of people making desperate grabs to get a P2P playerworld online.

so? They would have to be incredibly good to match up with the rest or be accepted. Maybe get rid of a few that are online now also..

Kasuagi 01-17-2002 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by freddyfox
No.

If we did that, we'd have hundreds of people making desperate grabs to get a P2P playerworld online.

hire more playerworld reviewers ;D

this would work...

I'd love to sit back and make money off something I enjoy

Kasuagi 01-17-2002 09:37 PM

I just thought of something...

hypothetically speaking, I could setup a server and run a 2 ghz processor, T3 connection, with 300 ready p2p accounts and log them onto my server and just let them idle. I'd generate a lot of profit like that and I could even pay "dummy" players to stay on for long periods of times

theres always a way to cheat the system :mad:

konidias 01-17-2002 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by Kasuagi
I just thought of something...

hypothetically speaking, I could setup a server and run a 2 ghz processor, T3 connection, with 300 ready p2p accounts and log them onto my server and just let them idle. I'd generate a lot of profit like that and I could even pay "dummy" players to stay on for long periods of times

theres always a way to cheat the system :mad:

Ummm I think that would be noticeable.. seeing as how the ip would be the same for about 300 people.. lol

As for what vermain said, sure more people would attempt to get p2p pw's online, but that isn't saying they will be good enough.. :)

WHIPENIE4 01-17-2002 10:39 PM

[screen_name says:]

im currently working on Divided Kingdoms, so once i get File Manager rights, it will start to get better :P

anyway, i agree with you konidias

DeathChill 01-17-2002 10:54 PM

I say no...I mean Stefan doesn't make that much by himself does he?Let alone server costs,etc. So WHY should he pay someone else for something he never even asked for?

Nastazio 01-17-2002 10:57 PM

This sounds like a good idea, and a great proposition for talented graalinans to make some cash working on what they like. I also think that yes, people would work alot harder advertising Graal, and fixing up their playerworlds to get players on so they can rake in the dough for that month.

On the other hand, i can see where Vermain and Bird are coming from. You will have a million people submiting playerworlds. We would have to hire more PW Testers and such, and have them work alot more.

I also think this would elemenate all new Free playerworlds. What person would want to NOT get paid for making a server? I could bet 9/10 submitted would be pay-to-play and horrible if that.

But over all i would say it is a good idea. Koni, i would take this up as soon as you can with Unixmad or Stefan and get the idea in motion :)

DeathChill 01-17-2002 11:00 PM

Oh yeah and also it'd be better if global staff were paid ;)
Playerworld owners are just managing their playerworlds. Something they have to do if they want to stay up. On the other hand global staff are running around helping like every server with accounts stuff,answering emails,etc.

cds96 01-17-2002 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by DeathChill
I say no...I mean Stefan doesn't make that much by himself does he?Let alone server costs,etc. So WHY should he pay someone else for something he never even asked for?
i agree with you

DeathChill 01-17-2002 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by cds96
i agree with you
<3

DeathChill 01-17-2002 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by DeathChill
Oh yeah and also it'd be better if global staff were paid ;)
Playerworld owners are just managing their playerworlds. Something they have to do if they want to stay up. On the other hand global staff are running around helping like every server with accounts stuff,answering emails,etc.

(I don't actually wanna be paid just saying it'd make more sense then paying PW owners)


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