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As i said.. great system and fun to do... Make it worthwhile and things will change.

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@Rogue
I'll just point out that the FMK3, XM25, and MP7 were added during Tim's management, and I was the one who added them, not Zach.
Assuming those are the 200k guns you're talking about.

And you guys should calculate the $/hr on digging with a golden shovel, just for the shits and giggles :D

I still don't like shell clusters! All that running around trying to pick them up hinder your income!

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Originally Posted by shrimps (Post 1728943)

I still don't like shell clusters! All that running around trying to pick them up hinder your income!

I'm pretty sure their numbers completely contradict that.
You're mad cause it's less macroable :P

Besides just get rid of the shell TNT and it wont effect(affect? I forget which is which) your macro.
Also what numbers? didn't rogue say those numbers are ignoring shell clusters? o.o

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1728893)

Normal shelling:
The shovel has a freeze/digtime of 1 second when the weapon is used.
So you can dig max. 3600 times per hour.
At a rate of 60% shellage (using workers potion) per dig, that's ~2160 shells.
The average rate per shell is $4 (3+4+4+5/4).
$8,640 an hour, ignoring any instance of Shell Clusters.

Just checking now, shell clusters appear at a 5% rate with a potion on. This rate is separate from regular shells, and thus it won't interfere with my previous amount/rate. That gives 108 clusters an hour (which matches your analysis.. sorta).
Clusters are random at 10-20 shells per. Which is an average of $60 a cluster (15*4).
This would tack on $6,480 an hour bringing your new hourly total to:
$15,120 - $2,160 for TNT. Which is fairly reasonable, thanks for helping or I wouldn't have realized I used a wrong variable.

Edit: Shell TNT now $15 like mining TNT. Woo Job Balance!!!

Right there in bold.
According to Rogue's calculations, shell clusters increase your $/hr by exactly 75%
And by my calculations, it'll account for 48% of your total profit (6480 / (15120 - 1620) = .48) (the 1620 = $15 * 108tnt)
So unless you're spending 48% of your time picking up shells from shell clusters, it's a gain, not a loss.

Not having timed myself digging to see which percent of my time goes to picking up cluster shells, I'd say, subjectively, it feels like maybe 20-25% of the time.

You should be-able to smelt down your Gold and make Event Coins. We're pumping thousands into the economy through Gold and Diamonds, maybe an alternative for the two could less the rate of influx in the economy.

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Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 1728965)

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New found respect for miners, even being inside of the room with 8 machines, it took me 48 minutes as a level 5 miner to process 4.3k rocks. How bored I feel mining alone is comprehensible, now processing my 23k + rocks is going to take me a few days (Let's face it, I'm not going to sit there for 4 hours and process rocks in one sitting)

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Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 1729010)

To be fair, in reality if a player attained 27.3k rocks by actually mining they would be a level 23 miner, this would allow them to refine 6 rocks at a time (as opposed to your 3). Which is quite literally twice as fast.

Lazy. :asleep:

haha Yeah I thought the same thing, when he told me about that.

Why I would mine when I can buy rocks, lead and Iron and still make profit would be silly.

I just mine for people, and charge like 15$ per rock! Yay profit!

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Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 1729021)

Why I would mine when I can buy rocks, lead and Iron and still make profit would be silly.

I can process them for free sometime if you want

I charge 1$ per rock to process.