I don't think I ever said I was 100% right about anything; I realize that players may no see eye to eye with all of the changes that took place, but even just today we have made strides by better explaining what has exactly happened and most, aside from a few, with better understanding now see this as a positive.



Not sure why you replied to the quoted section (that you quoted) like this. The part you quoted was me saying that I would reexamine some of the changes and work towards a solution for the betterment of the players. If that's not the right thing to do, then I don't know what is. Catering to the playerbase is doing exactly what you quoted me as saying, re evaluating some of the things we did and seeing how we would move in a more positive direction with this.




Obviously gun balancing has been done before, but not on the scale of exchanging/filtration as you said.

It would take a lot more than this update to mess up the economy any more than it has been already. Aside from a few drastic measures, the only thing that would with certainty allow us to fix the economy would be a reset.

I never implied that you said that. I don't discredit your work, but I do question if its doing the right thing you want it to, just as everyone else does. I personally do not feel convinced by its effectiveness.


Sorry, I do this to address each paragraph I see, makes it more organized to reply. If you read my ending sentences, you would understand why, but to explain it is easy. It appears from what you are saying, the players themselves aren't assisting you in balancing each weapon, you know, public testing to help them feel appropriate and correct, so there's your explanation.


Yeah, you're right, but you also noticed how irresponsible this major change was handled, no? Players went into a frenzy, selling items they believed were being updated by mere rumor, poorly preparing anyone, if not hurting others in the process for being ill-informed when they shouldn't have been and you know it.

Interesting, do you perchance feel the need will arise within near future then?

^

Staff members warned us saying "do not make trades". So I followed that advice, I made no trades and bought nothing. Even though there were players telling me to buy this gun or buy that gun because a certain staff member told them they will go up in price, I still did not buy anything.

We waited 3 weeks for what seemed to be a very good idea. Only problem is it would either be really good, or really bad.

In this case it turned out really bad :{


Shout out to whoever buffed the HK though :cool:

The adaptment of gun stats was definitely necessary (look at the legendary weapons...) and I think that this "exchange" system is not a bad idea, as long as it doesn't become a habbit.

I definitely don't think Wil should've taken care of this though. Why was he awarded another chance after he messed everything up last time he changed the stats? All Wil aims at is to make 1-2 guns which fit him well and make all the other guns as bad as possible, especially when it comes to the guns which he has more trouble against.

I'm sorry to inform you that you fell into the trap as alfonso did.

Gun stats were fine while I was manager; you guys should of just left them alone.

Because it's typical of Era. Every time a new manager comes along they feel they have to alter gangs or guns somehow, f*** knows why....

Hello all,

Apologies for any inconvenience(s) the change may have caused anyone. However, as of yet, it seems to be that the bulk of the issues are stemming from nothing more than a handful of players and the matters about which they complain were errors made during the change, not the change itself.

The noise seems, as usual, to have died down on the game client. A huge majority of the players, as of today, have begun to move on and continue with their gameplay, as they normally would. I apologize for putting forum complaints on the backburner, but I felt as though in-game issues were more immediate because they came from those who are most likely to be actually playing the game.

@Tk: In any event, I corrected the discrepancy with Shipka. As a result of their capacity to shoot multiple bullets at once, each weapon in that style of weaponry were to be given the defect of the ammo drain you noticed. The anomalous Shipka was a fluke.

@Willa: I do not know which item you refer to, I'd appreciate it if you specified.

@Fulg0re: Before the change was acceptable for every item, numerous players were used to test it and verify it's useability and "fairness." A majority of the players now have received the change well. It just seems to be that most people that regularly play era don't use the forums, and those who do not, well... yeah. Your suggested process of allowing players to review changes was PRECISELY what led to the rumors. We promptly warned players the moment we recognized the issue and told them NOT to trade.

Besides that, in a situation where everything is shuffled, it served no one any good to trade. No one, at any point, understood which item would be switched for what. Players were only given previews to statistical changes because it was necessary to verify their acceptability.

The mass of issues with this shift are not abnormal, as a matter of fact, this seems to be the most problem free gun update I've been around to notice. The stats of weapons Tim refers to, which I also brought into place, experienced more complaints and more outrage for a FAR longer period of time. Yet, in the end, it was well-accepted by players, but ultimately changed by the new administration (as usual). Even THAT Administration's changes were not well-received and was an issue for a very long time.

The objectives of reducing the amount of items and expanding the variability in item stats while not overly affecting values was a never before tried feat, as Fidel hinted at. A bulk of the positive effects of such a change will not be immediately seen, and seldom is when it comes to gun stats. Therefore, we're simply dealing with the issues, as expected, and moving forward.

To all else, if there are any issues with the current stats, exchanges, and so on, please do not hesitate to message me in-game or leave a Support Ticket. I will address them immediately, as I have. Again, we, as a whole, apologize for any inconvenience this change may have caused you, but we promise, it was for the best and not done out of self-interest.

Thank you,
William Soul

You guys complain about old stats, you complain about new stats, you complain about old prices & new prices.

You just can't win.

If you're going to complain at least give a reason on how to fix it/make it better.

If you're going to complain, at least back it up with something. Give us a better way of fixing the gun stats/prices that all you guys complained about since forever.

I can get behind the idea of taking guns out of the game. For a while there have been more guns than players. However, I think giving players the option of getting a full refund of any gun they chose to (before the new stats were applied) would have been a much better way to go about it. That way, no one would have anyone to blame but themselves for not selling their guns when they had the chance, and those that do sell their guns have money to buy whichever gun they like after the new stats have been applied. Everyone wins, or at the very least, everyone is responsible for their own actions.

One way to go about it would have been to refund people the value of the guns before giving an overhaul of them, seeing as pretty much every gun is completely different now.

@Fiber and Shrimps:

We certainly considered that route in the beginning, but realized there was another objective, the economy. And, as we've all seen in the past, adding a large amount of money into the economy at any given point will end up making things far worse. Beyond that, determining what to refund people would be extremely tricky. I mean, shop prices weren't accurate measures, and players perceived certain items at different values, etc.

Basically, outright refunds were simply unfeasible. So, while I do hear you guys on this one, we just couldn't do it and reasonably expect positive results.

My Opinions:

Crizen is now overpowered beyond belief (.15 freeze, 32 damage). On top of that, it has infinite ammo, making it one of the best guns in Era @ the moment due to it's sheer power.
Since Core Electronics seems to be closed (can't seem to enter it), I believe that these guns should be taken off the pawnshop/gundealer because it gives people an incorrect vision of what they're supposed to be worth.

Combat Shotgun is back where it should be statistically (for its price point).

even if shipka has a 30 (effectively 15) clip it's still OP. ACR is borderline OP compared to the other new guns and shipka is cheaper and far better

I see where you're coming from, but like Fidel said, it would be pretty hard to ruin the economy more than it has been already.
Either way, it's already done, so there's no point in me coming up with hypothetical scenarios that could have taken place.

I tend to disagree with the stance of "It's ruined already, can't ruin it much more by doing this". The fact that something is already in disarray doesn't mean it can't get worse. Things got this bad because of the thoughts like "It's just a few hundred thousand dollars, it won't be THAT much compared to how bad things already are" with each passing management (Mine included). Add enough twigs to an already cracking branch, it'll just keep cracking.