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cbk1994 11-18-2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nuke_for_you (Post 1707843)
I HATE V6

Why?

Tashkin 11-18-2012 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1707826)
I don't see any reason for not allowing idling in bomb trade. As Chris pointed out it shows who's idling and who isn't. I like to leave GK running over night to catch PMs from people who don't usually play at the same time as me due to time zone differences.

This.

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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1707827)
You can use AIM/MSN or whatever instead though.

Not everyone has a messenger and some people don't want one.

xXKajalXx 11-18-2012 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tashkin (Post 1707852)
This.



Not everyone has a messenger and some people don't want one.

We've got forums for "non active" pms. No need in staying online the whole night to get a message. That's not a good argument, since you can't answer if the person is offline, after you received the message. You need to wait for a moment, being online together again anyways to communicate.

Tashkin 11-18-2012 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by xXKajalXx (Post 1707853)
We've got forums for "non active" pms. No need in staying online the whole night to get a message. That's not a good argument, since you can't answer if the person is offline, after you received the message. You need to wait for a moment, being online together again anyways to communicate.

Players on GK hardly use the forums. Players only come to the forums to see what we post. Since they aren't required to sign up to view the post they don't even bother.

xXKajalXx 11-18-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tashkin (Post 1707854)
Players on GK hardly use the forums. Players only come to the forums to see what we post. Since they aren't required to sign up to view the post they don't even bother.

Then implant some kind of messanger in game, where you can send messages to each other, even if the person is offline. Something like a mail account. Anyways we can also write letters on gk and send them by postmail like in the good ol'days. :D Would atleast raise roleplaying a bit. I don't know. Maybe you are right, maybe not. I think the "leaving msgs" argument is some kind of weak. Mine isn't such a good one aswell but I thought more transparency would be neat. Or make a new idling room (with beds and stuff) where people go inside just to go to sleep irl or something or when they are afk. I think the musty mug tavern would be a right place to be. Chilling there, eating some jerkies and there are also bedrooms to sleep. Would at least make some roleplay-sense to go into a tavern. A tradehouse isn't supposed to chat and idle. This would reactivate the misty mig tavern again.
So I'd say, remove "no-disconnect" function in bomb trade and invite it in musty mug tavern, so that they sell some meals and jerky. :)

Supaman771 11-18-2012 10:45 PM

If a player is in idling mode, it shouldn't count them towards the active playercount of the server that is displayed.

It's a fake and disappointing thing to have to do to make it seem like GK isn't dead, as much as it amuses me for you guys to think there are people online, it really shouldn't pull a guise over and make the server seem more successful than it really is.

I have nothing against it, if people want to enhance their lack of active lifestyles by padding their online time then so be it. But from a somewhat outside pov, I don't like seeing fake player counts displayed. And it's making zone look bad.

As far as the 'getting pms' and 'messenger' thing goes, maybe you could make the mailbox and letter system much more simplistic and allow players to leave each other messages in a more interactive way.

Felix_Xenophobe 11-18-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by xXKajalXx (Post 1707855)
Then implant some kind of messanger in game, where you can send messages to each other, even if the person is offline. Something like a mail account. Anyways we can also write letters on gk and send them by postmail like in the good ol'days. :D Would atleast raise roleplaying a bit. I don't know. Maybe you are right, maybe not. I think the "leaving msgs" argument is some kind of weak. Mine isn't such a good one aswell but I thought more transparency would be neat. Or make a new idling room (with beds and stuff) where people go inside just to go to sleep irl or something or when they are afk. I think the musty mug tavern would be a right place to be. Chilling there, eating some jerkies and there are also bedrooms to sleep. Would at least make some roleplay-sense to go into a tavern. A tradehouse isn't supposed to chat and idle. This would reactivate the misty mig tavern again.
So I'd say, remove "no-disconnect" function in bomb trade and invite it in musty mug tavern, so that they sell some meals and jerky. :)

Just stop pls...

xXKajalXx 11-18-2012 11:03 PM

Misty mug tavern for new "no-disconnect" place is a good idea felix. Dunno what your problem is, since for now MMT is dead. It would at least make it worth existing.

Felix_Xenophobe 11-18-2012 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xXKajalXx (Post 1707861)
Misty mug tavern for new "no-disconnect" place is a good idea felix. Dunno what your problem is, since for now MMT is dead. It would at least make it worth existing.

I don't know what you expect would happen if we change the no disconnect area to MMT. It's not magically going to bring business to MMT (newflash bro: people don't buy food). It's not going to skyrocket the playercount. I don't know what you're fishing for here but it sounds like you have no clue what you're talking about.

The just stop pls was directed at that god awful mail box idea.

scriptless 12-11-2012 05:09 PM

Can players who are idling have there emot's changed to "zzZZzz" (ctrl+z) one? It might help people who don't look at playerlist and instead just run up to players and try asking questions..

MIGHT help some of the confusion

I too like to catch players from other timezones that I once met, on those days when I too... was awake when they were.. for the once in a life time encounter.. you know where im going with this point.. and some people just do not use aim, msn, icq, skype.. anything.. at all..and i know people who used to use aim that no longer do becasue to many people spam them.. since seeing a player on a server requires you to be on the game.. and aim.. well everyone just logons on when ever.. its MUCH easier to be spammed. so alot of people stopped using it. I have a huge list over 300+ graal players and some people havent logged on in years.. yet play graal daily..

it's not about a fake player count.. who gives a crap about that.. GK can be played alone.. u just go around and kill stuff.. u dont really need to interact with other players except for questions.. i know i spent MONTHS playing without talking to anyone.. except my brother who also started playing when I did.

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1707862)
I don't know what you expect would happen if we change the no disconnect area to MMT. It's not magically going to bring business to MMT (newflash bro: people don't buy food). It's not going to skyrocket the playercount. I don't know what you're fishing for here but it sounds like you have no clue what you're talking about.

The just stop pls was directed at that god awful mail box idea.


I think his point is alot of players go to bomboria trade and those people are all idling.. rarely will they go into mmt and be pissed off no one is talking to them. or so thats the idea

Tashkin 12-12-2012 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by scriptless (Post 1709252)
Can players who are idling have there emot's changed to "zzZZzz" (ctrl+z) one? It might help people who don't look at playerlist and instead just run up to players and try asking questions..

Seems that you got your wish. Even though all you had to do was press F7 and you can see who has zZ in their name...

NicoX 12-12-2012 11:58 AM

I just logged on and saw the emotions of idlers. Horrible lol. Everybody has that emotion now. Could annoy a bit though

scriptless 12-12-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tashkin (Post 1709269)
Seems that you got your wish. Even though all you had to do was press F7 and you can see who has zZ in their name...

Is it to late to change my wish to win the lottery? LOL I mean, how many wishes do I get and can I wish for more wishes.. XD

Tashkin 12-12-2012 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scriptless (Post 1709299)
Is it to late to change my wish to win the lottery? LOL I mean, how many wishes do I get and can I wish for more wishes.. XD

Only one sorry. :(

scriptless 12-12-2012 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tashkin (Post 1709300)
Only one sorry. :(

Aww... :(

I know some people don't like this new feature.. but when you think of it.. those people.. are more then likely the ones idling in the first place.. LOL


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