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JubeiSaotomeX 01-04-2002 02:40 PM

he came onto doomsday's rc yesterday and started saying that "certain people" had been complaining about the job i was doing, when i asked him to name those who were complaining, he snapped at me for asking him to tell me. he was also very BIASED by a certain GODDESS LIZZY. she's trouble, uses people and backstabs, and contego likes her =P

he also said "you've changed" and that "i'm not the jubei he knew". i hate it when people are like that, fact is, he hardly knew me to start with =P

HoudiniMan 01-04-2002 02:46 PM

you're just being pissy cause somebody doesn't like you.


imagine that =/

G_yoshi 01-04-2002 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by JubeiSaotomeX
he came onto doomsday's rc yesterday and started saying that "certain people" had been complaining about the job i was doing, when i asked him to name those who were complaining, he snapped at me for asking him to tell me. he was also very BIASED by a certain GODDESS LIZZY. she's trouble, uses people and backstabs, and contego likes her =P

he also said "you've changed" and that "i'm not the jubei he knew". i hate it when people are like that, fact is, he hardly knew me to start with =P

I hope he doesn't show up on my PW :(

AlkarenHyralt 01-04-2002 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by HoudiniMan
you're just being pissy cause somebody doesn't like you.


imagine that =/


Please tell me you are not that ignorant.

DeathChill 01-04-2002 02:57 PM

Let's just all stop talking about that and dance!

Faheria_GP2 01-04-2002 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX



I didn't know him before he was a GM. What he did then really doesn't matter; when he was staff...that's what matters.

does this mean that when valder gets power again he wont hire me even though I was his old UDF buddy? :(

Kasuagi 01-04-2002 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT
anyone but konidas should be GM, jeez
he gets all this power for nothing, it's just not fair

hey, he deserves it. have you seen anyone else did anything for g2k1 lately, other than stefan himself? nope, konidias contributed the marketplace, new house system, and soon bomy fighting. he's also working on some other projects. at least he is trying =(

G_yoshi 01-04-2002 03:00 PM

As I see it...the whole point of Konidias' orinigal thread has been lost...as well as the concepts from Alkaren and several others...it has now turned into a big pointing fingers contest :p

psihunter 01-04-2002 03:09 PM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi
As I see it...the whole point of Konidias' orinigal thread has been lost...as well as the concepts from Alkaren and several others...it has now turned into a big pointing fingers contest :p

It always ends that way

G_yoshi 01-04-2002 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by psihunter



It always ends that way

Which is very unfortunate :(

Boozy_Bravo 01-04-2002 03:38 PM

i agree
 
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Originally posted by Stefan


Other games don't host official forums :rolleyes:

We cannot allow other companies advertising here!


Yeah, this is a bussness.
Some of you guys give Stefan such a bad time about his creation, well lets see you do better!!!!!!!!!!
give him a brack try saying i really like somthing then say but i think you can add this dont just come out all pissy he works his A55 off for you guys . .Show him the respect he deserves .

btw Stefan can there be a spell checker on the fourms am not the only bad speller hear
:D

Thanks, Xanatos

James205 01-04-2002 03:51 PM

Do you guys know how hard it is to be an admin? Especially in Contego's case. He has to set up everything, make sure everyone is doing there job. It's not as simple as it looks, and when people get mad over masses,PMs,e-mails not get answered. Not every e-mail is going to be answered not every pm is going to be answered, and masses are needed but you guys freak out about them. I don't blame Contego for quiting, the only reason why he got online for anymore was to get on graal and work. With everyone thinking he was a corrupt power hungry admin is just plainly wrong. Everyday I talk to Contego and he always helps me out. I was just told Konidias thinks he is Account Manager or GM? Well I am the Account Administrator and he's not apart of my team, and the accounts team is just fine. There is no problems(Icehawk I have no idea why you said that) as of right now, I got my 2 assistants(Kyle,Agelaos) and they are great staff. I am tired goodnight lol.

IceHawk 01-04-2002 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by James205
Do you guys know how hard it is to be an admin? Especially in Contego's case. He has to set up everything, make sure everyone is doing there job. It's not as simple as it looks, and when people get mad over masses,PMs,e-mails not get answered. Not every e-mail is going to be answered not every pm is going to be answered, and masses are needed but you guys freak out about them. I don't blame Contego for quiting, the only reason why he got online for anymore was to get on graal and work. With everyone thinking he was a corrupt power hungry admin is just plainly wrong. Everyday I talk to Contego and he always helps me out. I was just told Konidias thinks he is Account Manager or GM? Well I am the Account Administrator and he's not apart of my team, and the accounts team is just fine. There is no problems(Icehawk I have no idea why you said that) as of right now, I got my 2 assistants(Kyle,Agelaos) and they are great staff. I am tired goodnight lol.
I said that because people are all upset with the way things are being run, and I'm pretty damn sure it wasn't so when I was AA. (Congratulations on the job though)

TrueHeaT 01-04-2002 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by PlasmaDestroyer

One word. Newbie.

one word. konidas

OH YEAH THIRD KONIDAS JOKE TONIGHT!

I'm just bitter because konidas just came along and did a bad tileset and all of a sudden gets FTP and RC and i made a lot of things for graal 2001 and gave stefan tons of ideas and never got anything.
it's totally unfair
i don't know if konidas sucked up a lot of something to get that stuff but =\

VyralP2P 01-04-2002 05:01 PM

Re: Re: What has Graal become?
 
I read the forum to this message.
Quote:

Originally posted by TheFrozenFiend
This is reply to the first post of the topic.

Paragraph 1: if its been deleted 3 times maybe (just maybe) someone doesnt want it up. You think youd have figured that out by the second time.

Paragraph 2: The only thing thats getting worse if the ammount of players who complain and think they could do better. Stefan doesnt have 24 hours a day to sit down and work on graal so some people who dont even want to pay for the game can have fun with it for 5 minutes before getting bored.

Paragraph 3: This is purely the players fault and no-one else can be blamed for it. The reason guilds are just a tag is because of players. The reason events are ruined is because of players. Youll never stop every player from doing something just because you dont like it. Some people only do it because others dont like it. Theres nothing you can do about it. Dont even bother saying ban people. Youd be getting rid of well over half the players and more will come, and come, and keep coming.

Paragraph 4: Why are there no teams for games? Players. Same things as guilds. Players dont care. After 5 minutes they are sick of it and want something else. If events team put on events people didnt want then people would complain. They just do what players want. Isnt that a good way to go about doing their job? Doing as the players ask? You cant sattisfy everyone. Thats a fact. They do however manage to satisfy a lot of people by doing what the majority want.

Paragraph 5: Players cant be corrupt. They dont have the powers to be corrupt. They can lie, cheat, hack and scam but that doesnt make them corrupt. Some players act like total idiots but if thats what they want to do they can. On graal 2001 I havent realy seen any corrupt staff. Sure, theres staff that wouldnt answer you if you waited an hour and FAQ's that couldnt answer basic questions about the server but thats not corrupt. Its just people being hired who shouldnt be hired. FAQ's shouldnt even need to be hired. Players should help each other. If someone asks me for help Id try answer them. I dont need some tag to do that. I dont need (FAQ) after my name just to help a person who needs help. Unfortunutely thats not the case with most people. In the end it all comes down to the players.

Paragraph 6: This I agree on for the most part. However you could just disable mass messages. Ignore toalls. Stay off graal. Nothing stefan says and nothing unixmad does can change this. This may be repetitive but its all down to the same thing. Players.

Paragraph 7: So what if someone tells you to shut up and die. Big deal. It shouldnt matter to you what some person who youve never met and probably will never meet says. If they have no valid reason for it then its irrelivent.

Paragraph 8: Its personal opinion. Like any game, in fact like every thing, ever created, some people will like it and some wont.
You cant please everyone.

The rest of the paragraphs are just your opinions on certain things about graal so I wont talk about them.

Half of what you said has nothing to do with graal itself but the people who play it.
Just think about that.

your da man!
and you can disable toalls and there is an ignore list where you can put people , just wanted to say that..


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