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Darklux 06-21-2007 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitro2030ce (Post 1320145)
I went to Linux because i grew tired of Vista. Once you see mostly everything there isn't much to do but play games slightly slow than XP. And the reason I'm not on XP is because I wanted Linux and I can play Windows games at good speeds.

You need like a quadcore to play modern games in wine/cedega at acceptable speed. I just always had a 40 gb gaming windows partition.

Ethereal 06-21-2007 10:27 PM

any news on this update? i've been waiting for almost 2 years for xp 64 bit support x_x

Admins 06-21-2007 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by XSeipheroth (Post 1320296)
Really tell me one bug in Vista's operating system I can't find any; Also tell me another application that doesn't run on Vista. The point is It's been 6months and I've seen no results.

At least in my Vista version there are a lot of bugs, even the Explorer is crashing regulary, deleted folders suddenly appear again in the folder list, shadowing of files has several reported bugs. Vista is a closed proprietrary system, that's not making it easy to find problems when your program is randomly crashing, freezing or just closing while on another Windows it is working perfectly fine. We know that we need to make Graal more compatible to Vista, but it's not as easy as you might think. Also we can't spend all of our time on this single problem either. The next Graal version will definitely improve things, until then either update your graphics card driver which will fix most problems, install Graal into a folder without space in its name, or use XP if possible.

XSeipheroth 06-21-2007 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1320829)
At least in my Vista version there are a lot of bugs, even the Explorer is crashing regulary, deleted folders suddenly appear again in the folder list, shadowing of files has several reported bugs. Vista is a closed proprietrary system, that's not making it easy to find problems when your program is randomly crashing, freezing or just closing while on another Windows it is working perfectly fine. We know that we need to make Graal more compatible to Vista, but it's not as easy as you might think. Also we can't spend all of our time on this single problem either. The next Graal version will definitely improve things, until then either update your graphics card driver which will fix most problems, install Graal into a folder without space in its name, or use XP if possible.

Is yours patched because mine has been running fine. I've got the latest June 1st drivers from Nvidia and its installed in my /documents/ folder which has no spaces. Guess all I can do is wait then. But is their any estimated date on a fix?

Alure1316 06-22-2007 01:01 AM

graal runs fine for me on vista ultimate.

but when i try to open a pm it crashes.

also, when i close graal it gives me a runtime error. (i also get a runtime error when i open a pm or try to create one)

and of course there's the minor glitch with gfx still.

imma update my graphics driver right now, bbl with results.

Alure1316 06-22-2007 01:45 AM

Graal on Vista (/w pics)
 
ok, here is how Graal runs on vista for me:

first i open graal, and since i set it to "Run as administrator" i get an allow or decline window. i allow it to run and then it runs...(just thought i'd put that in for no reason..)

here is pic 1, graal main window: as you can see, some graphics are distorted (like the Start button and the other ones)
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/2827/72510712dk7.jpg

here is pic 2, graal server window: as you can see, there's some graphics distorted here too.
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/5274/18033374eh6.jpg

pic 3, just me walking around, notice the gfx? those are suppose to be clouds...not huge signs.
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/203/90634900tv8.jpg

picture #4, i am about to message lucky Luda.
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/6259/51920175sa1.jpg

picture 5, but then this happened. forcing me to close Graal4.exe through the taskbar.
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/2500/41335496xr1.jpg

pic 6, so i get back on, and i am about to close graal.
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/2999/15250376iq3.jpg

pic 7, damn it wtf. so i click ok
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/1128/10818655nz3.jpg

pic 8, wtf another error? i keep clicking ok and it doesn't close so i have to shut down the Graal4.exe process through the taskbar..btw, here's the 2nd error i get after clicking ok on the first error.
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/3364/43530330av6.jpg

D4rKv310c1ty 06-22-2007 03:01 AM

"GraalH4x" *****.

Angel_Light 06-22-2007 03:06 AM

@Alure1316

Yup same for me, I use Vista Home Premium and I get all the same errors/bugs.

Delta2004 06-22-2007 05:25 AM

I've got Home Premium and I don't have all those issues :o Just graal randomly crashes (usually longer than an hour though), and all animated flower graphics get all messed up.

ArushenP2P 06-22-2007 08:43 AM

I got the same problem too, and I'm using Vista Home Premium

WarriorCam 06-22-2007 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSeipheroth (Post 1320444)
You can't buy OEM XP or Mediacenter 2005 anymore; The only way you can get anything NON Vista now is being a technet / msdn subscriber.

Uh, yeah you can. Microsoft isn't pulling the XP OEM license until Jan 2008.

I even went to Dell.com just to confirm this and I'm still able to find PCs being offered with Windows XP.

Alure1316 06-22-2007 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta2004 (Post 1320952)
I've got Home Premium and I don't have all those issues :o Just graal randomly crashes (usually longer than an hour though), and all animated flower graphics get all messed up.

try updating your graphics driver.

and what settings do you have? why doesn't your graal do what ours does

Admins 06-22-2007 07:52 PM

Those graphics messups are caused by the software-renderer, the graphics card doesn't seem to support accelerated graphics although that messed-up letters image is transparent. It should eventually work better with the next Graal version.

The runtime error when closing the game is more complex, seems to have to do with the Vista file shadowing and depends on the filename of the exe. That is normally fixed by installing Graal into a folder that doesn't have spaces in it's name.

Angel_Light 06-22-2007 08:22 PM

Oh!!! I Got Pms To Work!!!!!

Not sure if this is already posted cuase I dont feel like reading the 12 pages of pointlessness of Vista, anyways here is what I did. XD

Right click on Graal4.exe, go to properties, then the compatibilty tab and clicked "Run in compatibilty mode for" then clicked "Windows XP (Service Pack 2)", then I checked "Disable Visual Themes" Now I can PM and I don't get the error when I close Graal. Graal is normal other than a few graphical errors!!! XP

Alure1316 06-22-2007 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel_Light (Post 1321092)
Oh!!! I Got Pms To Work!!!!!

Not sure if this is already posted cuase I dont feel like reading the 12 pages of pointlessness of Vista, anyways here is what I did. XD

Right click on Graal4.exe, go to properties, then the compatibilty tab and clicked "Run in compatibilty mode for" then clicked "Windows XP (Service Pack 2)", then I checked "Disable Visual Themes" Now I can PM and I don't get the error when I close Graal. Graal is normal other than a few graphical errors!!! XP

i tried windows xp compatibility, but not the disable visual themes. i'll try that next time i'm on my pc (i'm on my laptop right now)


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