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BlackSolider 05-25-2009 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1493842)
Classic has been through this sort of thing many times before(like I stated in my post) and never really died.

Indeed it has.

But how many lives does the old cat have left?

(Could insert a random story how this chick I know brought a kitten to my work today and I played with it for a bit, but I'll spare you the jealously.)

Seriously. Eventually people will stop coming back because they decided to finally move on. Graal itself, much less classic, is simply not brining in enough new players to replace the losses anymore. The cycle will eventually break.

DustyPorViva 05-25-2009 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSolider (Post 1493896)
Indeed it has.

But how many lives does the old cat have left?

(Could insert a random story how this chick I know brought a kitten to my work today and I played with it for a bit, but I'll spare you the jealously.)

Seriously. Eventually people will stop coming back because they decided to finally move on. Graal itself, much less classic, is simply not brining in enough new players to replace the losses anymore. The cycle will eventually break.

I think it's worth the risk. All Classic seems to be doing is digging a deeper hole each time they release new content catered to this custom system. They may as well get it over with now, and I imagine if they leave up some sort of playable version(the version it is using now), players will be understanding.

-Ramirez- 05-25-2009 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1493902)
I think it's worth the risk. All Classic seems to be doing is digging a deeper hole each time they release new content catered to this custom system. They may as well get it over with now, and I imagine if they leave up some sort of playable version(the version it is using now), players will be understanding.

I agree completely. I think everyone overestimates the players' willingness to return, or even stay.

DutchGuy 05-25-2009 10:01 AM

Let's go deeper into that.
I don't think it's the lack of content worrying most players. It's the current people who are in charge of this server who are lacking.
A change of guard would I think already move 10 old players to classic again.
Release content and you'll have people spread the word.
But as long as Master Storm is in charge it will be storming of players leaving classic.

fa12 05-26-2009 05:34 AM

What Classic needs is a Drive-in theater. That would be sweet.

DarkCloud_PK 05-27-2009 04:25 AM

I wouldn't be fretting about default HD right away, all I said is that it wasn't possible right this minute.
just because it cant be done right now doesnt mean I wasn't aiming for a gradual withdrawl from the lower quality custom systems, and experimenting around with what default HD will effect. I'm not ingoring anyone, I know the upsides and downsides of things, right now I'm assessing those.
I do wish to keep a default movement and the current default nick system.
Custom movement makes using a trainer to wallhack or speedhack much more difficult.
The custom nickname right now is far superior to the default nick system and also allows for nicknames outside of the 0-100 AP coloring.

As for Storm, he is actually doing a better job than he ever has in management, and this is coming from me, from the stress of almost losing his position or not, he is actually doing the jobs he is suppose to have been doing and is showing a lot of interest in the things we are developing.

DustyPorViva 05-27-2009 05:01 AM

Only problem I see with custom nickname system is the lag. I don't know if it has to do with the custom movement(from what I've talked with MS, there are tons of checks going on with movement that means more players = way more lag), but custom nicknames do contribute to lag as more players enter the level. With 20 or so players in a level, I have to disable nicknames to cut down some on the lag.

Otherwise I agree with the benefits.

BlackSolider 05-27-2009 07:35 AM

Need to give GCs the 'detag' command back.

Either way, I'd like to see these ". (lots of repeated spaces inbetween) ." nicknames be banned from usage so people can't cheat in LMS events like babord survivor.

MysticX2X 05-27-2009 02:44 PM

You mean 'denick', Gladius?

BlackSolider 05-27-2009 04:41 PM

Ya my bizzle.

MysticX2X 05-27-2009 05:03 PM

Could be very useful considering some of the people's nicks they set when joining events =/.

BlackSolider 05-27-2009 06:15 PM

I know right?

I hate it when people join events with the name "Mystic".

MysticX2X 05-27-2009 06:20 PM

Clever.

BlackSolider 05-27-2009 07:08 PM

I know right?

DarkCloud_PK 05-27-2009 08:43 PM

if mgmt and night agree to give GCs a denick/tag command whatever, i can easily add it

BlackSolider 05-27-2009 11:07 PM

Coolio.


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