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iBreez 07-19-2011 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pimmeh (Post 1659338)
Suggestion: Have regular Graal subscribers get some sort of bonus. And something linking to the PC version of the game!

^this

Also, I see that you guys implemented the q for inven and m for map, but after opening them, I have to manually move my mouse and hit the back button the close them instead of hitting q or m again.

WhiteDragon 07-19-2011 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pimmeh (Post 1659338)
Suggestion: Have regular Graal subscribers get some sort of bonus.

No. Let's just let the existing planning of entirely killing subscriptions actually happen.

Unkownsoldier 07-19-2011 03:21 AM

Do you think with the invention of facebook Graal, pc graal may eventually be obsolete?

Bubble13 07-19-2011 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1659348)
Do you think with the invention of facebook Graal, pc graal may eventually be obsolete?

Facebook is only one server so not really.

salesman 07-19-2011 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1659348)
Do you think with the invention of facebook Graal, pc graal may eventually be obsolete?

then who would make their content?

ffcmike 07-19-2011 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1659348)
Do you think with the invention of facebook Graal, pc graal may eventually be obsolete?

No, Facebook + iPhone show that Graal works as a convenient chat device with an avatar, and that the concept of micro-transactions can be worthwhile.

If anything I've had conversations with 2 of the top staff members of each of the 2 iPhone servers (so 4 in all) where they have expressed their frustration at not having the freedom to develop/improve the server in the way they would prefer, and how so much priority is placed on making money as opposed to improving the game.

It is this ability for players to develop the game that sets PC Graal apart, and provided a fairer subscription policy is implemented, aswell as the game becoming more accessible such as via web browser (planned I believe) it is perfectly possible for PC Graal to move up to the same par if not beyond that of Facebook.

iBreez 07-19-2011 03:36 AM

Another inconvinence.
Every time I log in, I have to go through like 5 menus to put on my guildtag, why can't I just say guildtag Secret Security or something to put my guild tag on? x.x

Shadow5596321 07-19-2011 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubble13 (Post 1659350)
Facebook is only one server so not really.

Until iZone comes out.

Bubble13 07-19-2011 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1659362)
Until iZone comes out.

iZone is going to be on Facebook too?

Shadow5596321 07-19-2011 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubble13 (Post 1659364)
iZone is going to be on Facebook too?

iZone is iDevice, Facebook, and PC cilent as one.

alskdjfhg 07-19-2011 05:04 AM

No more "Touch me to read" signs please. Make it "Click to read" I hate walking into a sign with tons of text accidentally...

iBreez 07-19-2011 05:29 AM

you can already click signs

DustyPorViva 07-19-2011 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by alskdjfhg (Post 1659369)
No more "Touch me to read" signs please. Make it "Click to read" I hate walking into a sign with tons of text accidentally...

I dunno about iPhone/Facebook, but on the client you can just press "M" to end a sign, no matter how much there is to read.

Crono 07-19-2011 05:34 AM

graal is unique because we all feel that it is OUR game too and we want to make it better. doing this on the iphone and facebook servers is more difficult than it is on pc.

we are limited to how good we can make our game and are (and always have been) bottlenecked by the "higher ups" who do not recognize this special bond~

Bubble13 07-19-2011 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1659378)
I dunno about iPhone/Facebook, but on the client you can just press "M" to end a sign, no matter how much there is to read.

That's not really possible on iPhone, seeing as there's no actual keyboard. I'm also sick of walking into signs by accident. It's possible to tap some of them, so nothing should happen if you bump into them.

DustyPorViva 07-19-2011 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubble13 (Post 1659380)
That's not really possible on iPhone, seeing as there's no actual keyboard. I'm also sick of walking into signs by accident. It's possible to tap some of them, so nothing should happen if you bump into them.

But this is the Facebook thread... where there is a keyboard.

Bubble13 07-19-2011 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1659381)
But this is the Facebook thread... where there is a keyboard.

Yeah but you mentioned iPhone. The same thing can be applied with the signs so bumping into them doesn't do anything.

callimuc 07-19-2011 02:49 PM

2 more bugs ^^
1. When you have 2 accounts and you make the account transfer to the VIP account (and you are with both accounts in a same guild doesn´t matter how many guilds are the same) the guild button you are twice in will get hidden.

2. You can´t edit the Rank of a player on PC. It always gets back to the old one. (fixed I just had to press enter after editing :D)

callimuc 07-19-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by callimuc (Post 1659412)
3 more bugs ^^
1. When you have 2 accounts and you make the account transfer to the VIP account (and you are with both accounts in a same guild doesn´t matter how many guilds are the same) the guild button you are twice in will get hidden.

2. You can´t edit the Rank of a player on PC. It always gets back to the old one. (fixed I just had to press enter after editing :D)

3. On FB Graal when you are on a horse and get down, your player moves to the side/up/down. But when there is a wall you wont get moved to the side. maybe that should also get fixed

Unkownsoldier 07-19-2011 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by iBreez (Post 1659376)
you can already click signs

im still laughing that it got deleted xDD.



and well then iphone players should eventually be encouraged to play the pc game when the transaction system is finished. Facebook graal is so much more fun compared to pc graal because there are hundreds of players to own and interact with. If those players somehow found their way to pc, the game could be a lot more fun like it once was.

MattKan 07-19-2011 08:38 PM

I think it would help if the servers were just combined.

I mean, Classic Facebook is just better than Classic iPhone in terms of graphics and levels, and I really just want to play there. But on the other hand, there aren't as many players, because most of the players play on the Classic iPhone server...

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1659379)
"higher ups" who do not recognize this special bond~

Which must really stink for all you oldbies, because all of these "higher ups" are world class noobs who wiggled their way to power through other world class noobs' adminships.

Thus Graal Facebook and iPhone are run by a bunch of kids who think they're just so cool because they were able to get hired through fame.

ffcmike 07-19-2011 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MattKan (Post 1659465)
I think it would help if the servers were just combined.

I mean, Classic Facebook is just better than Classic iPhone in terms of graphics and levels, and I really just want to play there. But on the other hand, there aren't as many players, because most of the players play on the Classic iPhone server...

This would involve more lag for iPhone players with the extra burden of PC players. I'd imagine that a lot of those that have purchased VIP to access the iPhone server from Facebook were iPhone players originally and therefore not really increasing the numbers anyway.

Plus if the 2 communities were merged, you don't think the older generation of players would influence the younger generation of players perception of what they've been buying into, negatively from a business perspective?
A lot of those that do migrate over to PC Graal, even without upgrading to Gold then seem to be discouraged from making purchases on iPhone servers.

ff7chocoboknight 07-19-2011 10:12 PM

Free to log-on, but I wouldn't call it free to play.

Admins 07-19-2011 10:37 PM

You can get everything for free in the game, you just need to destroy bushes, a lot of bushes :)

Update: added copy&paste, might need a cache-clear in the browser to reload the game instantly

Starfire2001 07-19-2011 10:42 PM

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/766/swampv.png

Does anyone else find this extremely annoying? Can someone widen the entrances to at least one of these castles/forts/whatever. Ppl just stand in the doorway, dont slash and block you from entering. Then they respawn 2 feet away and come back out the door and do it again.

skillmaster19 07-19-2011 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Starfire2001 (Post 1659484)
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/766/swampv.png

Does anyone else find this extremely annoying? Can someone widen the entrances to at least one of these castles/forts/whatever. Ppl just stand in the doorway, dont slash and block you from entering. Then they respawn 2 feet away and come back out the door and do it again.

I think they should redo the tower system to be more like era PC's where everyone including the owners spawn outside(yes I know it is a hospital on pc, but you will get the point) instead of the owners spawning at the top. also, instead of repeatatly slashing a flag, it should be a form of king of the hill like in era, though make the tower's hp go down by one for every player that is not in the owning guild that is in the area per 5 seconds, and up by one for every player in the guild per second. This will make towers require actual pking skill, but also redo the levels to widen them up so people can't just sword spam. but make the server have to trigger the client and have them trigger back so that people can't just go up there and lag(or just simply add a lag cap)

Rufus 07-19-2011 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stefan (Post 1659483)
update: Added copy&paste, might need a cache-clear in the browser to reload the game instantly

:D cap

Unkownsoldier 07-19-2011 11:02 PM

It stinks when someones sitting in a doorway and they lag like crazy. Because it takes forever to kill them an almost impossible to get it, and they just keep going back to the door, so you only have like 1 second of opportunity to go in before they are back.

DustyPorViva 07-19-2011 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ff7chocoboknight (Post 1659480)
Free to log-on, but I wouldn't call it free to play.

Why not? It's the typical standard free-to-play system in every other "free" MMO. Would you rather subscriptions?

Sp_lit 07-20-2011 12:34 AM

I've experienced a problem which I'd like to see solved, even though it might not be the most urgent for you at the moment. It appears that my keyboard changes from Swedish to English when I enter the game, and I don't seem to find any option to change it back.

It's quite annoying, not being able to use symbols such as :, ; , ? or å ä ö.

Is there a quick solution for this, or am I simply missing anything? :)

Rufus 07-20-2011 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sp_lit (Post 1659499)
I've experienced a problem which I'd like to see solved, even though it might not be the most urgent for you at the moment. It appears that my keyboard changes from Swedish to English when I enter the game, and I don't seem to find any option to change it back.

It's quite annoying, not being able to use symbols such as :, ; , ? or å ä ö.

Is there a quick solution for this, or am I simply missing anything? :)

Yeah it's an American keyboard. My @ and " are switched which is annoying.

Admins 07-20-2011 03:46 AM

Weird it's just using the typed keys provided by Flash.

oo_jazz_oo 07-20-2011 03:51 AM

Pasting into Graal does some weird stuff...

It seems to paste the previous two things you've pasted into Graal...or at least thats what it seems to be doing.
If you copy "test", then paste it into Graal, then clear your text and paste it again, it will put "testest".

Darlene159 07-20-2011 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ff7chocoboknight (Post 1659480)
Free to log-on, but I wouldn't call it free to play.

I play for free. Just have to have patience in buying stuff is all.

DustyPorViva 07-20-2011 04:45 AM

Remember when the Trident was 10k gralats(or rupees, as they were back in the day)? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

ffcmike 07-20-2011 04:56 AM

Remember when there was a black gelat (100,000) in the Babord warehouse chest opening game, that was always in the same position but however only visible according to a random variable, so all you had to do was just keep reconnecting till it appeared?

Sadly I only discovered this after I had obtained so much money by some other glitch that 100,000 was a pittance, and went there to open every single chest.

MattKan 07-20-2011 05:27 AM

It would be SO nice if your guild house was the same on both servers for your VIP account. Well, some people might want to have two guild houses, so maybe you could implement a check box in options that allows you to choose whether or not you want both of your houses to be alike to each other...

Tricxta 07-20-2011 08:11 AM

Lols at how Im able to shoot bows and place bombs in water =P also the baddies seem a bit bugged when hurt not in there starting level.

Luda 07-20-2011 09:39 AM

Soooo are we going to be able to access Facebook and iPhone servers from the client? It would pretty much be the same exact thing as Facebook Graal. I'm getting like 11 FPS in browser, but on the client I run as smooth as a babies butt. (Yes, I've upgraded to Flash 11)

skillmaster19 07-20-2011 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Luda (Post 1659548)
Soooo are we going to be able to access Facebook and iPhone servers from the client? It would pretty much be the same exact thing as Facebook Graal. I'm getting like 11 FPS in browser, but on the client I run as smooth as a babies butt. (Yes, I've upgraded to Flash 11)

I agree every bit.
Stefan, just add the server to pc without observer and add a gelat shop with gralat packs. It isn't that difficult.


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