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jorollychu 07-14-2011 11:42 PM

where's android version

oo_jazz_oo 07-15-2011 01:08 AM

Dusty should get something out of this. I mean...he only made your tileset thats used on multiple servers seen by thousands of people a day...no big deal.

Although, really...they will probably just offer him gralats or something like that...don't know if its worth it.

fowlplay4 07-15-2011 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oo_jazz_oo (Post 1658846)
Dusty should get something out of this. I mean...he only made your tileset thats used on multiple servers seen by thousands of people a day...no big deal.

Although, really...they will probably just offer him gralats or something like that...don't know if its worth it.

When you make things available for free and don't attach any kind of license to it you shouldn't be surprised or expect any kind of reimbursement for your work when it actually gets used.

Not saying I don't think he shouldn't get some sort of thanks for what he did but it's a little late now to start asking for checks.

WhiteDragon 07-15-2011 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1658849)
When you make things available for free and don't attach any kind of license to it you shouldn't be surprised or expect any kind of reimbursement for your work when it actually gets used.

How about we start licensing things as Creative Common's BY-NC-SA?

salesman 07-15-2011 01:38 AM

screenshots???

fowlplay4 07-15-2011 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteDragon (Post 1658850)
How about we start licensing things as Creative Common's BY-NC-SA?

Then we could surely raise a fit when Eurocenter decides to use our licensed work. (:

The last thing Graal needs is licensing drama though.

WhiteDragon 07-15-2011 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1658853)
The last thing Graal needs is licensing drama though.

Indeed.

But, a general shift in atmosphere to something more pleasant would really be welcome at this point. Licensing might be one piece of that puzzle, maybe not.

Admins 07-15-2011 02:56 AM

Normally we have asked the people who made the graphics, we have also remade some graphics on request (the trees).

About the VIP accounts: right now we have 1795 VIP accounts. In 11 cases some items or onlinetime were lost, we will restore them tomorrow. Sorry for the problems.

Rufus 07-15-2011 02:56 AM

Can you enable pasting into text boxes? Having to type out long-ass shield filenames (lol I originally typed codes..) when setting shields and stuff isn't fun.

redsoxsrule424 07-15-2011 03:40 AM

A bug I noticed is that guild houses don't work on the facebook server. At least transferred guild houses from an iPod account don't. Also have you considered disabling pausing on the server from users playing with their PCs? It's a little irritating when invading players pause while trying to take over your tower preventing you from killing them. It is albeit a very minor thing.

Maxo14 07-15-2011 04:09 AM

So, can you guys make Graal PC free again?

skillmaster19 07-15-2011 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by redsoxsrule424 (Post 1658874)
A bug I noticed is that guild houses don't work on the facebook server. At least transferred guild houses from an iPod account don't. Also have you considered disabling pausing on the server from users playing with their PCs? It's a little irritating when invading players pause while trying to take over your tower preventing you from killing them. It is albeit a very minor thing.

haha I had fun with that. I stood in a pk area and said "kill me for 9999999 gralats and an admin ticket" and so many people tried to kill me XD

Ares 07-15-2011 07:02 AM

yo stefan

I was sparring on Classic Facebook for a couple of hours and bought the character customization package. I decided to buy the VIP subscription, logged onto Classic iPhone and none of my stats/hours/guilds transferred. I also lost my character customization. I was under the impression that when i bought the VIP subscription, my stats/hours/guilds from Classic Facebook would then be transferred to my VIP account. Will you transfer my stats/hours/guilds/char. customization package to my VIP account?

Forum PM me for my email that's set on my VIP subscription

Admins 07-15-2011 11:51 AM

If you buy VIP directly on the login server then it's not transferring stuff, but you can login without VIP to the server and then login to the account and it will transfer. We are working on improving this.

About guild houses: you have separate houses on Classic iPhone and Classic Facebook, you will need to create a new one on the Facebook server (free).

Update for Internet Explorer: the tab-key is no longer tabbing the address bar or so, you can use it for chatting inside Graal :D Shortcuts for emoticons still don't work (Ctrl+S etc.), for that you will need to use Safari, Chrome, Firefox or Opera. Since there are no keys on iPhone & Co either you can however show emoticons by typing text, e.g. : ) : ; : p etc.

redsoxsrule424 07-15-2011 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1658908)
If you buy VIP directly on the login server then it's not transferring stuff, but you can login without VIP to the server and then login to the account and it will transfer. We are working on improving this.

About guild houses: you have separate houses on Classic iPhone and Classic Facebook, you will need to create a new one on the Facebook server (free).

Update for Internet Explorer: the tab-key is no longer tabbing the address bar or so, you can use it for chatting inside Graal :D Shortcuts for emoticons still don't work (Ctrl+S etc.), for that you will need to use Safari, Chrome, Firefox or Opera. Since there are no keys on iPhone & Co either you can however show emoticons by typing text, e.g. : ) : ; : p etc.

Yes but everytime I create a guild house on the Facebook server, it will say I've entered when I really have not. In addition it will keep asking me to create a new guild house. Also is it just me or has pause been removed? Can anyone confirm this?

Admins 07-15-2011 06:37 PM

Some more updates for Internet Explorer: the game feed is now working and you can buy Gralats with SuperRewards.

xAndrewx 07-15-2011 07:34 PM

Nice, love the tab feature

knightfire35 07-15-2011 09:21 PM

I had a question regarding the VIP.
I purchased the VIP package today and my account "reset" per say. I started over.
If for some reason I do not want to keep the VIP package after my month is over, will my account reset again or will I still have everything just can not access the VIP features?

Also is there a way to save your location when you log back on?

xAndrewx 07-15-2011 10:49 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Tiny error with resolution

I'm in a spar and don't see the spar button, and for some reason I don't see my full hearts either

DustyPorViva 07-15-2011 10:51 PM

Ya, most of the right screen was cut off for me too.

Luda 07-15-2011 11:05 PM

Still having this stupid chat/text problem :'(

skillmaster19 07-16-2011 12:07 AM

Use chrome, I haven't had many problems with that besides losing focus.

iBreez 07-16-2011 12:10 AM

Stefan, do you mind if you make Q a shortcut to your character's inventory on Classic Facebook? Same with M for map. It would help alot with accessing my inventory to change my item hotkeys, and accessing the map.

EDIT:
Also if your typing and someone kills you, all of your text is deleted.

Admins 07-16-2011 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBreez (Post 1658984)
Stefan, do you mind if you make Q a shortcut to your character's inventory on Classic Facebook? Same with M for map. It would help alot with accessing my inventory to change my item hotkeys, and accessing the map.

You mean Q for opening the player profile (because you have two shortcuts so you still need to click on the right icon) ? That and M should be easy to add.

About the spar: looks kindof strange, looks like the GraalControl has been resized, will check it soon.

iBreez 07-16-2011 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1658988)
You mean Q for opening the player profile (because you have two shortcuts so you still need to click on the right icon) ? That and M should be easy to add.

About the spar: looks kindof strange, looks like the GraalControl has been resized, will check it soon.

Yeah, that's what I meant.
Thanks. :D
Also, there's a bug where if a player kills you while you are typing, all of your typed text is deleted.

Oh, and also could you add text commands for putting on your guildtag and stuff? I don't like having to go through like 4 menus to put it on.

Like if you said guildtag then the name of your guild, it would put on your guildtag, like how if you already say "kills" it shows you your kills.

Luda 07-16-2011 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skillmaster19 (Post 1658983)
Use chrome, I haven't had many problems with that besides losing focus.

I've tried it on IE, Chrome and Firefox, same result

iBreez 07-16-2011 01:09 AM

Oh my god, I love the facebook version. Like 5 of my close friends joined and they gave me their honor pts :D

ffcmike 07-16-2011 01:25 AM

I've just discovered that the app works on Chrome again once I've deleted all of my previous browsing data/temporary files for the time it was first loaded within.
It's working again on the 2nd attempted load so I'm not sure if that issue was a one-time thing or not.

I'd also like to say that it's interesting how many former players of the real Classic have came to me over the last few days, who didn't really know what to expect of it as they hadn't glimpsed the iPhone server but been curious due to its success, and have expressed their disappointment at how dis-similar to Classic it is.

I personally don't see the issue so much as one of similarity, more a matter of quality.
Ofcourse we've seen that Quest preview video, and it was my understanding that a new/remade intro was going to be implemented, unless this is a form of open-beta test (which I haven't noticed any evidence to suggest) it may have been beneficial to implement these alongside the Facebook server for the sake of an improved first impression.

Stefan has clearly put in an exceptional amount of effort on top of working on several simultaneous other projects to get this whole thing operational, and that can only be admired, but I do wish attempts would be made to "improve" Graal before attempts are made to "expand" it.

oo_jazz_oo 07-16-2011 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1659001)
unless this is a form of open-beta test (which I haven't noticed any evidence to suggest)

If you go to classiciframe.graalonline.com it says something about joining the 'Open Beta'.

Although, that might just be an easy excuse to put our low quality content.

ffcmike 07-16-2011 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by oo_jazz_oo (Post 1659006)
If you go to classiciframe.graalonline.com it says something about joining the 'Open Beta'.

Although, that might just be an easy excuse to put our low quality content.

Yeah that's the first time I've noticed the term "open beta", bit strange as I haven't seen this link to the app officially publicised anywhere.
Also if this truly is an open beta it may have been better to test the base game first before allowing people to purchase VIP, which again the issues experienced may have been detrimental to first impression.

redsoxsrule424 07-16-2011 02:17 AM

One other error I've noticed is that when on the FB server it often shows that my "Friends" are offline, when in reality they are online.

Rave_J 07-16-2011 02:50 AM

i hate the background of it
umm the server is really extremely laggy
like omg laggy

oo_jazz_oo 07-16-2011 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1659008)
Yeah that's the first time I've noticed the term "open beta", bit strange as I haven't seen this link to the app officially publicised anywhere.
Also if this truly is an open beta it may have been better to test the base game first before allowing people to purchase VIP, which again the issues experienced may have been detrimental to first impression.

I just happened to stumble upon it, because I was looking for the origin of the flag object. :P
I wanted to see if it was hosted on one of Graal's websites.
And it led me there; so, no, it hasn't been publicized.

Admins 07-16-2011 05:08 AM

We also plan to put a link to it from the graalonline homepage.

ThomV 07-16-2011 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1659026)
We also plan to put a link to it from the graalonline homepage.

Will this be mentioned or advertised on the facebook application/page aswell? Seems like this could be a nice way of letting the new playerbase know that there's also a PC version out there. ;)

knightfire35 07-16-2011 05:14 AM

When I log in on my VIP account it only asks for my email, can anyone access a VIP account just by knowing the email? I think there should be a password system or something along those lines. Or does it save to your FB account?

Zero 07-16-2011 08:14 AM

What ever happened to the Android Version? Still waiting.

Admins 07-16-2011 03:40 PM

Update: when a notification is shown it's not hiding the chat field anymore

Quote:

Originally Posted by knightfire35 (Post 1659028)
When I log in on my VIP account it only asks for my email, can anyone access a VIP account just by knowing the email? I think there should be a password system or something along those lines. Or does it save to your FB account?

It's using the device/Facebook id as identification. We will eventually also add a way to disallow devices/Facebook ids later, can also be good for PC Graal.

Rufus 07-16-2011 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1658865)
Can you enable pasting into text boxes? Having to type out long-ass shield filenames (lol I originally typed codes..) when setting shields and stuff isn't fun.

ya please do

MattKan 07-16-2011 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1658865)
Can you enable pasting into text boxes? Having to type out long-ass shield filenames (lol I originally typed codes..) when setting shields and stuff isn't fun.

this

Also, can you make it so my full name doesn't show up as my nickname every time I log in :-/


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