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Rufus 08-21-2007 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Shakram (Post 1341976)
i like your sarcastic and ironic posts but if you have a prob feel free to say it lol

There is no irony in my posts, as I haven't stolen any content. I just think your definition of "taking inspiration" then being completely arrogant about the work "you" have produced is unwarranted. Tyrial was blunt, but he's not far off the truth.

Shakram 08-21-2007 05:40 AM

k than lets find the first thing off all
the rest must be stolen or "inspiration"
maybe you are only a tom fanboy and how i said i like his tiles only the gui was a prob but if you mean my tiles are more stolen than inspiration of snes games than really play more snes games and buy some glasses
i dont have to do this things
i thought it was good for you players to have more than the hands of servers... iam not doing this for me i dont need this posts like "your tiles are the best" or whatever if the people like my graphics its good but i dont need it at all

Crono 08-21-2007 05:42 AM

Shakram you admited that you use other graphics as inspiration in the past, remember? Back when I flamed you everytime you posted some news about the server.

Shakram 08-21-2007 05:46 AM

yeah because iam not like the others who say that they have all done alone
its the truth that i see at other works to know how i do my things
but rufus sounds like i do more than this
all people get inspiration from anywhere

Rufus 08-21-2007 05:49 AM

I'm glad you're doing it for the apparent "right reasons" but your attitude stinks. I'm not a Tom fanboy by far, but after reading his thread, then reading the updates on this one with Tyrial it clicked. I can see where he is coming from, yet he is being flamed for it by people who clearly don't know what they're talking about.

These things are new to Graal, and good for Graal, but your reluctance to even come to terms that you're copying (yes, copying) a lot of other people's work is what the issue is. So you copied some styles, no one is going to care as this work is pretty damn hot, but don't get arrogant and patronizing about it, pretending like you don't.

Shakram 08-21-2007 05:58 AM

but wtf where iam arrogant
i never said that my graphics are good
i never said that iam a good artist
i never said that my server will the best ever
or anything else
all coming from the people who see my graphics and sorry that iam a fan of old snes rpgs and thats the point why i want the server too look like it
maybe toms graphics looks more cartoonish but wtf there will be any tiles out there which looks cartoonish too
if you people dont like the things i do than **** say it
i dont need this **** that evry day people coming up with the point i steal my graphics or whatever

PS: if you dont understand the end of my text i stop working on esteria
i have only probs with it it makes no fun to do anything all the time this idiotic people comming up and talking stupid things so have fun with whatever you doing here

coreys 08-21-2007 06:34 AM

Wow. Thanks you ****ing ****sucking idiots for ****ing over one of the most promising servers. Go kill yourself.

His point was that there's nothing wrong with using other things as inspiration for his work, so there's no reason for you to make it out to be.

Crono 08-21-2007 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shakram (Post 1341987)
i dont need this **** that evry day people coming up with the point i steal my graphics or whatever

Oh for ****s sake man. You've already put so much effort into a beautiful server.

DustyPorViva 08-21-2007 06:46 AM

There is a huge difference between stealing and inspiration.
If it's stolen, then people have the right to complain. If it's inspired, their complaints are purely opinion and not fact. That is, you can choose to ignore them and they can choose to move on.

smirt362 08-21-2007 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1341968)

Damn..wish I was that good :cry:

Tom 08-21-2007 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smirt362 (Post 1341999)
Damn..wish I was that good :cry:

practise!

Crow 08-21-2007 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1341994)
There is a huge difference between stealing and inspiration.
If it's stolen, then people have the right to complain. If it's inspired, their complaints are purely opinion and not fact. That is, you can choose to ignore them and they can choose to move on.

I have to totally agree here. I would like to see some Pixelation samurais here to stop that chit chat, lol.

Tyrial 08-21-2007 05:29 PM

Ha?
I never said the graphics was bad, they aren't.. but they are far from original.. I even see stuff that was "inspired" from my old graphics, not naming anything as I don't really care.. But don't get all hyped on theft, because theft have no base.. it's just an illusion and you will understand that someday..

I'm saying this to you because I did the same, and belive me it's just a waste of time.. so don't be a fool by lying to yourself.

Elk 08-21-2007 06:08 PM

Thanks everyone, Angelu will stop working on Esteria -_-!

only because you *******s said that he has stolen things
he's fed up with you guys AKjgalkgsjalskjgalsgkjasögkasjögj bah
making my last graalfriend quit makes me upset

DustyPorViva 08-21-2007 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrial (Post 1342064)
Ha?
I never said the graphics was bad, they aren't.. but they are far from original.. I even see stuff that was "inspired" from my old graphics, not naming anything as I don't really care.. But don't get all hyped on theft, because theft have no base.. it's just an illusion and you will understand that someday..

I'm saying this to you because I did the same, and belive me it's just a waste of time.. so don't be a fool by lying to yourself.

I believe you're also the one who PMed me warning me that my graphics were too similar to yours and that you better not catch me stealing your graphics. I've looked through your graphics posted on the forums and saw nothing similar to my own at all... and on that note, I say your accusations of theft are bogus, especially since you've not posted any proof.

Codein 08-21-2007 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrial (Post 1342064)
Ha?
I never said the graphics was bad, they aren't.. but they are far from original.. I even see stuff that was "inspired" from my old graphics, not naming anything as I don't really care.. But don't get all hyped on theft, because theft have no base.. it's just an illusion and you will understand that someday..

I'm saying this to you because I did the same, and belive me it's just a waste of time.. so don't be a fool by lying to yourself.

No similarity between Adiardre (sp?) nor Oasis :P

Elk 08-21-2007 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1341968)
I think someone stole your tree design!

http://www.pixeljoint.com/files/icons/full/omenapuu.gif

Sorry, but I made the Esteria tree
and I've never seen that tree before =)
You can tell that I do trees like the ones on Esteria because I made a huge tree before.

Rufus 08-21-2007 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1342083)
Sorry, but I made the Esteria tree
and I've never seen that tree before =)
You can tell that I do trees like the ones on Esteria because I made a huge tree before.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...&postcount=193?

Don't bull**** a bull****ter. You've even commented in this very thread about it you stupid idiot.

Tyrial 08-21-2007 07:18 PM

haha rufus.. :p

Dusty, what's your point?
My accusations are bogus without any proof? Are you like.. stupid?
I don't even play this game, why the hell would I come and say such things without any background info? And guess what, this ain't no god damn trial or so that I need any evidence.. If you want to be fooled, be my guest... But I won't, and all I am doing is stating just that.

Elk 08-21-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1342086)
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...&postcount=193?

Don't bull**** a bull****ter. You've even commented in this very thread about it you stupid idiot.

i feel so sorry for you

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=64113

Angelu made the leaves, i made the trunk.

Rufus 08-21-2007 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1342088)

Why? You're only showing yourself up rofl.

DustyPorViva 08-21-2007 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrial (Post 1342087)
haha rufus.. :p

Dusty, what's your point?
My accusations are bogus without any proof? Are you like.. stupid?
I don't even play this game, why the hell would I come and say such things without any background info? And guess what, this ain't no god damn trial or so that I need any evidence.. If you want to be fooled, be my guest... But I won't, and all I am doing is stating just that.

I never said you needed to do anything.
In the end, you seem to accuse a lot of people of stealing stuff, and you've yet to ever really back yourself up. Because you don't play anymore means that what you say should be believed?
I never said your accusations are bogus without proof, I just stated that you seem to throw around a lot of accusations that never really seem true. If you really want to push your opinion that this stuff is stolen, which you seem to by repeatedly posting that it is, then prove it. Otherwise it seems like you have a very vague belief of what something being stolen is, you seem to think a lot of stuff is stolen or too similar when they don't really look that much alike.

Tyrial 08-21-2007 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1342092)
I never said you needed to do anything.
In the end, you seem to accuse a lot of people of stealing stuff, and you've yet to ever really back yourself up. Because you don't play anymore means that what you say should be believed?
I never said your accusations are bogus without proof, I just stated that you seem to throw around a lot of accusations that never really seem true. If you really want to push your opinion that this stuff is stolen, which you seem to by repeatedly posting that it is, then prove it. Otherwise it seems like you have a very vague belief of what something being stolen is, you seem to think a lot of stuff is stolen or too similar when they don't really look that much alike.

lol

Elk 08-21-2007 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1342091)
Why? You're only showing yourself up rofl.

Showing myself up? I'm defending a friend

Go die rufus

Crow 08-21-2007 08:31 PM

Tyrial, stop saying we are stealing graphics without giving any proof. Dont even ****ing think about it.

Rufus, what the hell is up with ya? As far as I know Elk did make that trunk, if you want to believe him or not.

coreys 08-21-2007 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1342088)
i feel so sorry for you

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=64113

Angelu made the leaves, i made the trunk.

Maybe you should be more clear next time. ^^
I'm not gonna doubt that you did collaborate with Angelu though, since he was the one that taught you how to GFX, was he not?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrial (Post 1342093)
lol

You're constantly making the average intelligence of these forums drop considerably. Please go away, before these forums are declared clinically retarded.

Elk 08-21-2007 08:59 PM

[QUOTE=coreys;1342106]Maybe you should be more clear next time. ^^
I'm not gonna doubt that you did collaborate with Angelu though, since he was the one that taught you how to GFX, was he not?[quote]

yea when i started he helped me alot
nowadays i teach him xD

Tyrial 08-21-2007 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coreys (Post 1342106)
You're constantly making the average intelligence of these forums drop considerably. Please go away, before these forums are declared clinically retarded.

By saying lol? Haha you guys must be rocket scientists or something...

coreys 08-21-2007 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrial (Post 1342110)
By saying lol? Haha you guys must be rocket scientists or something...

You make us look like rocket scientists in comparison, ya...actually, in that case, do stay. Your idiocy will distract from the obvious flaws of most of the Graal community.

Switch 08-22-2007 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coreys (Post 1342113)
You make us look like rocket scientists in comparison, ya...actually, in that case, do stay. Your idiocy will distract from the obvious flaws of most of the Graal community.

Yeah

Just keep outta the thread k?

Tom 08-22-2007 05:04 AM

If hes quitting because people say stuff to him, just slightly lame. I've been slated loads for my failed projects, i even have loads of bad reputation points for it. But i dont quit, im just here to finish a server and prove em all wrong :D

DustyPorViva 08-22-2007 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 1342164)
If hes quitting because people say stuff to him, just slightly lame. I've been slated loads for my failed projects, i even have loads of bad reputation points for it. But i dont quit, im just here to finish a server and prove em all wrong :D

u phail at server making. n00b.

Tyrial 08-22-2007 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coreys (Post 1342113)
You make us look like rocket scientists in comparison, ya...actually, in that case, do stay. Your idiocy will distract from the obvious flaws of most of the Graal community.

onoe!! :(

coreys 08-22-2007 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrial (Post 1342186)
onoe!! :(

ya srsly

Tyrial 08-22-2007 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coreys (Post 1342189)
ya srsly

:(


To the rest:
I hope my latests posts show you guys how much I care for you and your words.. So next time, don't even bother.

DustyPorViva 08-22-2007 06:05 PM

I think it's pretty obvious the feelings are mutual. :)

Tyrial 08-22-2007 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1342237)
I think it's pretty obvious the feelings are mutual. :)

:)

WanDaMan 08-22-2007 07:31 PM

Any publicity is good publicity; page # 28.

Switch 08-23-2007 08:21 PM

whats that mean wan :o

Switch 09-04-2007 10:48 PM

BUMP!

Also, we got a new GFXer, Anubis, and so far he's made 2 weapons (basic steel sword and spear) and their group's template.

He's also making a GUI, for selected item, HP, MP (if Crow, HolySheepy, or Chompy will script Magic :) ), and Experience.


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