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xXziroXx 10-22-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiro (Post 1608108)
while we may not expect it from many server staff, i'd think most expect a higher level of maturity from the PWA who are asked to solve these immature server staff problems

Has anyone even PMed them about it? You're not going to get anything out of threads like this you know.

SlikRick 10-22-2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiro (Post 1608108)
while we may not expect it from many server staff, i'd think most expect a higher level of maturity from the PWA who are asked to solve these immature server staff problems

Why is it PWA's problem to deal with staff issues? It is well within Cron-Star's power to remove and correct these staff issues.

Fulg0reSama 10-23-2010 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SlikRick (Post 1608122)
Why is it PWA's problem to deal with staff issues? It is well within Cron-Star's power to remove and correct these staff issues.

It is their problem if Cron-star sits and lets the problem fester.

SlikRick 10-23-2010 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1608124)
It is their problem if Cron-star sits and lets the problem fester.

No that does not mean PWA has to step in. They could easily just contact Cron by himself in a PM, Forum message or other form of communication, telling him that he needs to get his staff under control or they will step in.

Fulg0reSama 10-23-2010 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SlikRick (Post 1608126)
No that does not mean PWA has to step in. They could easily just contact Cron by himself in a PM, Forum message or other form of communication, telling him that he needs to get his staff under control or they will step in.

Just from pure observation this problem has been for a small while. I agree they should give him the first and final warning about this predicament.

xXziroXx 10-23-2010 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1608127)
Just from pure observation this problem has been for a small while. I agree they should give him the first and final warning about this predicament.

What makes you think that they haven't done that yet? Usually there is a lot more things going on behind the scenes than what players think.

Fulg0reSama 10-23-2010 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1608128)
What makes you think that they haven't done that yet? Usually there is a lot more things going on behind the scenes than what players think.

This is graal, If you think there's more deph to their procedures than "Hey you need to straighten up" "k." than sure There's a lot more than I think going on behind the scenes other than non important jibberish.

kia345 10-23-2010 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1608128)
Usually there is a lot more things going on behind the scenes than what players think.

Usually that's stupid and deprives the players of the needed invisible hand that should exist in management of an online community, particularly the one that is player run at the lower levels.

xXziroXx 10-23-2010 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1608129)
This is graal, If you think there's more deph to their procedures than "Hey you need to straighten up" "k." than sure There's a lot more than I think going on behind the scenes other than non important jibberish.

I was around during Maloria's mess in 2005 that Houdini tried cleaning up, Clash's removal on Valikorlia and don't even get me started on all the things I was around for during my time on Zodiac before, during and after being Manager.

That experience tells me that there is a hell of a lot more things going on than what people think.

Fulg0reSama 10-23-2010 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1608131)
I was around during Maloria's mess in 2005 that Houdini tried cleaning up, Clash's removal on Valikorlia and don't even get me started on all the things I was around for during my time on Zodiac before, during and after being Manager.

That experience tells me that there is a hell of a lot more things going on than what people think.

I've got experience in the RC and dealing of people too. Maybe our experiences differ but when you boil it right down there's not as much to it as you would like to believe. It's all purely decision based on both ends, maybe some more complex than others but it's all the same.

Mark Sir Link 10-23-2010 02:37 AM

I can't understand anyone who says Luca is doing a terrible job but Absolut_Crono is doing fine.

Isn't Absolut_Crono Luca's boss? Can't he like, remove him?

kia345 10-23-2010 03:00 AM

But then who will make the colorful particle effects and plant them in TC?

fowlplay4 10-23-2010 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1608139)
But then who will make the colorful particle effects and plant them in TC?

Probably Yen, can't go wrong with some rainbow script influence on a server with a exploitable playercount.

Imperialistic 10-23-2010 06:24 PM

Calani playing this role as "Luca" isn't working out so much.

Mark Sir Link 10-25-2010 08:47 AM

apparently UN's management is now attempting to demonize me or something since out of the blue I am being harassed by their pals about what they've been "told by crono, luca, and khyber"

they should do a better job though and not tell players **** like "CakeDogs and PresentCats" was an event I made. I mean, come on guys, if you want to make me look like the person who doesn't/didn't do work or only output poor quality work, you could do it much better than that.

I haven't really called Luca's ability into question but how is that 15 triggeraction per sword swing working out for you, pal?

EDIT: More on that, I find it odd that someone who would code something like that to begin with is the head of all development on UN to begin with. The fact that he added it and then left it there when players were suffering tremendous lag issues whenever they were hit by a sword is even worse.


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