::BAFFLED BY THIS::

Players will have a problem with any Manager they DON'T LIKE.

Yeah everybody is different, but if they are focusing on Classic then they have a part of devotion to it.


Anyways, the problem is that we are depending on Old Classic and yet we are not encouraging New Classic.

Right now it is lacking the appeal for players, and with the lack of it, Classic's light will still be at yellow. Yes, IMHO the players have created a lot of classic. They created houses, they created guilds, and they well, created some stuff! And all that stuff had open room for quests.

Of course they have made some things happen; endless pking, weird player-made events, famous and infamous challengers of Graal, war waging guild-masters.

But how does Classic discourage this? EXAMPLES BELOW okay.

Some guy: Hey my friend and I made this house to hang out can you upload it at some random area.

LAT: THIS HOUSE LACKS EVERYTHING DETAIL NEEDS, IT JUST HAS, TABLES, BEERS, AND BEDROOMS.

Some guy: I don't see the point of not adding it, it can be a hangout place for certain people, I don't see why it gives off a bad impressi-

LAT: BLARGHOOHEHARHGB

Some guy: Man no wonder they don't have a, "YOU ARE WELCOME TO MAKE HOUSES AND STUFF" sign. It is already giving other people the impression to not contribute to this server, not make guilds for this, help staff, they don't bother trying. It is like a chain reaction! Jeeze how discouraging.

I agree with Tyhm if I interperated it correctly while skimming through the messages, old servers need back their old people. So why not make a new server for new people?

Oh god I have to log off bye.

No.

Pish, like I need your permission. I'm an Emeritus, by my own regulations I can return whenever I feel like it. ;) (But I wouldn't do that to you, so don't sweat it)

I dunno. I like that Classic has its Link To The Past. Maybe it needs a time machine, so people can go back to the exact levelset, in the exact month, that they like. Lots of duplicate levels in duplicate folders that way, but nobody could complain that we failed to accurately reproduce their world their way.
They'd just complain that the imperfect worlds also exist.
And I'd be tempted to put in the past events that led up to the earthquake machine in Avalon...^_~

*looks up Emeritus* ahhh.. okay.

"And I'd be tempted to put in the past events that led up to the earthquake machine in Avalon...^_~"

As much as I liked that quest, and as much as I loved Avalon, I don't plan on readding Avalon (as an island at least). btw Tyhm, I'm not manager.

Also, to Stryker. How'd you manage to catch me healing test subjects, but fail to catch some other people altering their flags and attributes through RC (or at least failing to inform me)? Some kind of incentive against me that you'd look up my name? Seriously, if you were looking through the RC Log, you wouldn't have missed what I just fired someone for, and am questioning Storm as to banning this one and removing this one's GC Items.

To the person rambling about player house submissions. We're not rejecting them, we're simply not accepting them as of yet. I want to get the overworld expanded to an island first, and might even start accepting before that.

tyhm i did ask stefan if i could remake graal 2000 agen and pay for it as my own server. Stefan did say yes but he wanted me to ask storm and storm did say NO so a good idea was denyd cuz storm is an ass.
also that time machine will be like the oldgraal we hade lol u pay 5 bux to see the old graal? haha
and to stryker: YES a new manager would make things better.

Stormy - let him have his fun. Worst case scenario, he makes some oldbies happy and they stop bothering us. Best case scenario, he's got it out of his system, it's a win-win. Clearly Extant Classic isn't as concerned about its roots as some of the more die hard conservatives insist it should be.

There would be no worst case scenario because its based on trust, raistlin (yoimbokintoray) are not the one I would like to see as manager.

I would like MS to stay, but I want massokre gone :(

What exactly did Massokre do? (lets keep in mind that he was only made LAT Admin in September).

I asked Stefan the same thing months ago.
You can't create a server without an NPC server, the levels would have to be converted. :(

Not enough old content is being brought back in my opinion, and overall, the server feels different.

If someone gets permission to actually remake a true classic server (like Graal 2000), and it's promised a spot on the classic tab upon completion, I might be interested in handling a lot of the development as far as transfering/rescripting goes.


Or even something like we get our chance to make our own version of classic, put it aganist Storm's, and winner takes all.

In 3 months I could have a classic server vastly superior in every way to what storm has had over a year to do.

The problem is that when you have 2 servers sharing a core level set, you effectively tear the community and playercount in half, and then both servers find it even harder to survive.

the mountain up top of the current overworld seems too straight :(
I say shape it around a bit

The community had already been teared.

Minoc:there are alot of people that would help re script to make a old classic server.
That aint the problem. Storm is just sad cuz i would take away all hes players from new crappy classic and everyone would see hes vision of classic sucks.

Jaffer: I would not want to be a manager of this new crappy classic. But i would like to see someone oldschool be manager fk it even tyhm would be better then storm.