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Minoc 07-12-2002 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


If someone makes a guild called f**k, he should wait for someone to complain before deleting it? If someone makes one called "giant wangs" in English, he should wait for someone to complain before deleting it?

It wasn't in english, he is the only one who thought it is offensive, no one alse complain, and the guild existed for months!

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Still, separate issues. If you wanna talk about whether or not he was right to let SS and SD go then go ahead, but it's not part of this debate.
Not separate issues. He should be doing his job for the other players, not for himself.


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Then perhaps he suspects that you named the guild as such with full knowledge that it was offensive. If that were the case then his rudeness would be fully warranted.
Sure, he suspected that I know Lithuanian x_X, he was rude to other people as well, so this is not the reason.

Birdbird_0 07-12-2002 11:38 AM

Go Kaiametsu!
I totaly agree with you, though, I think Tiki handled this a bit... wrong, he had every right to deleat the guild.

Kaimetsu 07-12-2002 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by Minoc

It wasn't in english, he is the only one who thought it is offensive, no one alse complain, and the guild existed for months!

You're not listening, or you don't understand. It wasn't in English. So? It would've been offensive to Lithuanians. Are you saying that Lithuanians don't deserve the same protection from offense as Americans?

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Not separate issues. He should be doing his job for the other players, not for himself.

They're separate incidents so they're separate issues. The two aren't directly related.

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Sure, he suspected that I know Lithuanian x_X, he was rude to other people as well, so this is not the reason.

Other people in the guild, who would've also known what the guild means?

Minoc 07-12-2002 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


You're not listening, or you don't understand. It wasn't in English. So? It would've been offensive to Lithuanians. Are you saying that Lithuanians don't deserve the same protection from offense as Americans?

No, but he seems to be the only one x_X, so it's harming only one person. It shouldn't be hard to find an offensive meaning to half of the guilds in other languages that I doubt anyone knows =\

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They're separate incidents so they're separate issues. The two aren't directly related.
Not directly, but I'm talking about the way Tiki handles the guilds =\

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Other people in the guild, who would've also known what the guild means?
Hardy anyone knows this language in Graal (maybe no one but Tiki actually), so no =\

magicbud3344 07-12-2002 12:03 PM

damn now it looks like all we can do now is make me guilds admin hmmmmm ;)

Minoc 07-12-2002 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by magicbud3344
damn now it looks like all we can do now is make me guilds admin hmmmmm ;)
please stfu :)

DragonX2 07-12-2002 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by magicbud3344
damn now it looks like all we can do now is make me guilds admin hmmmmm ;)
hahahahahah

magicbud3344 07-12-2002 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by DragonX2

hahahahahah

:P

Kaimetsu 07-12-2002 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by Minoc

No, but he seems to be the only one x_X, so it's harming only one person. It shouldn't be hard to find an offensive meaning to half of the guilds in other languages that I doubt anyone use =\

It doesn't matter how many people use it. We don't want Graal to be offensive to anybody, no matter how much of a minority.

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Hardy anyone knows this language in Graal (maybe no one but Tiki actually), so no =\
He's free to judge otherwise. In any case, that level of rudeness isn't particularly excessive. I could name higher staff who'd do worse.

Minoc 07-12-2002 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


It doesn't matter how many people use it. We don't want Graal to be offensive to anybody, no matter how much of a minority.

So nearly half of the guilds should be deleted for offensive meanings in other languages? And others that offend only a few people?

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He's free to judge otherwise. In any case, that level of rudeness isn't particularly excessive. I could name higher staff who'd do worse.

Tell me the names x_X with examples then.

Warcaptain 07-12-2002 02:32 PM

ive reporeted TIKI' for coming on my server, and giving himself massive hp and mp

and nothing was done aboutit

ive reported KA for threatening me and my server sayinghe had the power to shut me down

nothig was done.


alkaren and nemesis arent doing their jobs
even thoughi was said something would be done

Kaimetsu 07-12-2002 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by Minoc

So nearly half of the guilds should be deleted for offensive meanings in other languages? And others that offend only a few people?

If they mean "giant wangs"?

YES

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Tell me the names x_X with examples then.
Heck no. You think I want to start arguments? (Incidentally, I'm working under the assumption that any staff position on G2K1 is higher than Guild Admin)

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Originally posted by Warcaptain
ive reporeted TIKI' for coming on my server, and giving himself massive hp and mp

and nothing was done aboutit

ive reported KA for threatening me and my server sayinghe had the power to shut me down

nothig was done.

alkaren and nemesis arent doing their jobs
even thoughi was said something would be done

Okay. Fair point. But that doesn't mean Tiki has to listen to complaints about his performance. They should be directed to his superiors whether or not they will listen.

AlkarenHyralt 07-12-2002 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


If they mean "giant wangs"?

YES



Heck no. You think I want to start arguments? (Incidentally, I'm working under the assumption that any staff position on G2K1 is higher than Guild Admin)



Okay. Fair point. But that doesn't mean Tiki has to listen to complaints about his performance. They should be directed to his superiors whether or not they will listen.



Tiki is higher than 2k1 staff, because tiki is a global admin, rather than a local

magicbud3344 07-12-2002 03:10 PM

tiki is cool :D i don't care what you ass monsters say, he does a good job >:[ , but KA on the other hand........

magicbud3344 07-12-2002 03:16 PM

Geno 4 graal 2001 local guilds admin :P!


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