The Playerworld Administration deal with situations on a case-by-case basis. That is why they have removed Jerret from his position as Manager of Zodiac for his posts on the official Graal forums, while the Zodiac community uses its own forums. Makes sense.
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I work in favor of Graal and Graal's community, and every decision the PWA makes is in, what we consider to be, Graal's best interest. You may not agree, clearly you do not here, but you said it best yourself, Jerret was not behaving properly as a manager (on a very popular server), a position we hold to higher expectations, and we gave him ample warning before making this difficult decision. Of course we weighed his value in the community as a scripter against his negative personality traits, but again, we unanimously agreed that he is not worth his trouble. Anyways, I feel that I've really exasperated this discussion more than I normally would, and there's really nothing more that can really be said by anyone. I think everyone has pretty much voiced their complaints and we've explained our stance. |
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And Jerret "interacts" with us with humorous messages, Zodiac people are a hardy bunch who take news a bit differently than the rest of the people. If it's not funny or outstanding, we generally think "tl;dr;not important enough". |
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Courtesy of *whatzgoingon:
dont even know where to start jerret is a great manager, he's contributed a lot to zodiac. he's always helped out when being asked for serious help, even on other servers yet you fire him out of personal dislikes i still dont feel like the reason he was fired is justified. after seeing tigs quotes i do agree it was some inappropriate stuff but it wasnt supposed to be offending its just his bad sense of humor, he didnt mean to harm anyone the warnings that were quoted refer jerret pointing out that someone was receiving preferable treatment he wasnt told to stop the sexual harassment, he could have figured that out himself but again, its just bad sense of humor from his part and as for triple combo, he/she has been banned serveral times for usd/cst, even with proper proof i.ve been gp before so i actually am able to say that jerret has always been fair when it comes to handling those things he shouldnt be fired for stepping on someones toes or even for pointing out another persons mistake you want him to keep developing yet he isnt allowed to still be manager despite doing a great job it isnt going to be easy to even find a decent replacement even if you dont agree with what he did, you might as well consider whats good for zodiac and what the people who play it want, not what you want keep him banned form the main forums, dont care though leave the management out of it |
Tigairius, I know you're the PWAdmin and I'm just you know.. a player.
But I'd highly recommend rehiring Jerret, hoping he will rectify his behavior. Keep him off of the Graal forums, sure. Maybe ban him from everything forum, minus Zodiac and the Scripting forums and see how his behavior goes from there. But I've never seen such a reaction from players when a Manager is fired, so clearly his negative that you believe outweigh the positives of his administration aren't such a big deal to the majority of the players. Perhaps he does need a break from Management. Of course, people have always had problems with his attitude, but it looks like something's been up with him lately, as if he just wasn't caring how he behaved. Either way, sooner or later, I strongly recommend re-instating him. What happened after PWAs fired Streety? We've had: BD > GK > Crono > Dwarfy > Kevin > Fuza/KB So 6 different management reigns since you fired a stable Manager, who even though I personally disliked a lot, was good for UN and cared for his work. Now you just fired another stable Manager. Don't want this to get tl;dr, but as a last note. I agree Jerret's completely in the wrong for not heeding your warnings. I just hope you guys will work with him, because if you guys let such a good Manager go so easily, you're just hitting the server and game ever harder. Edit: as a sidenote, this reminds me of American politics lol a few making decisions, much against what the majority want for the "best" of what they administrate. |
Tig I can't even reply to your last post because it was obviously an attempt to cover your tracks and deter players from the facts of how you favor your Vimes family lol. The facts have been laid out on the table.
From what I can see you clearly judged his behavior simply off the forums. He was a Manager of Zodiac, not the Forums, it shouldn't matter what he has to say on here.. and if you don't like it feel free to ban him from the forums but don't rip him from the seat of Manager when has done absolutely nothing but made a positive influence in the community. Zodiac obviously had no problem with him and it seems like the only issues with him were the ones you were personally holding against him because of his personality on the forums. You just don't make sense at all. I'll take Minecraft for example; If you break rules on the forums and act like a fool they will ban you from the forums, simple as that. Do you see egotistical admin's going to their servers and interfering? Also, I would love to see the approval from a Cyberjoueur representative that allowed Chris to play on alternative accounts. Quote:
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It is nice to see Graal operates exactly like it did when I was actively playing. The whole situation is pathetic. An adminstration consisting of (former) players appointed by (active) players or selecting members from an internal process just doesn't work because it seems the administration cannot distance themselves from the in game politics (or soap opera like drama if you prefer). The fact that a 'family' was even allowed to be established within speaks volumes towards the stagnation of the administration and the lack of moderation by Cyberjouers. That in itself should warrant the firings of the PWA.
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Also would like to note that a true administration would have stated the firing, reasons if not personal, and would not engage in this crap flinging contest like Tig is doing now.
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I don't understand how you guys can just sit here and see the Graal community, including extremely active members of it, horrified and dismayed and not fix the problem.
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