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RawPower 08-28-2001 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by T-Squad


What do you mean? Hehe...me and W-Dragoon were thinking of a plan of a game...so our graphics don't go to waste...but who knows.

I mean a whole new Online RPG game.

T-Squad 08-28-2001 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by RawPower


I mean a whole new Online RPG game.

Thats what I mean as well...nothing to do with Graal. Just a whole new game...ha, lucky you...you got Kaimetsu to help on things.

RawPower 08-28-2001 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by T-Squad


Thats what I mean as well...nothing to do with Graal. Just a whole new game...ha, lucky you...you got Kaimetsu to help on things.

He's the programmer (Another Stefan ;D)

Kaimetsu 08-28-2001 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by RawPower


He's the programmer (Another Stefan ;D)

Um... Shadrock?

RawPower 08-28-2001 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Um... Shadrock?

Yes?

T-Squad 08-28-2001 10:51 PM

lol

Admins 08-28-2001 10:53 PM

What I have seen yet of M are
some testng npcs and weapons and
chaotic levels which someone said will be
be replaced, then I saw a generated overworld,
not more. Do you really think that could
beat existing playerworlds? I know that not
all playerworlds are very good, but I often see
nice stuff, e.g. on Atlantis, Frolic, Faheria.
I only hear complaining about that your
server is not put up, but not work in making your
stuff better so that it gets up. I have seen
some other nice examples of graphics and stuff
that will be put up on M (?) but have not seen in
action,

It's getting annoying to hear people complaining
about stuff and saying they will make a much better
game that beats Graal 100 times,
but cannot do a few levels and npcs of quality
to prove they can make a half-way good
playerworld

Admins 08-28-2001 10:55 PM

?
Also complaining about that I don't do events so often
anymore is strange, when I did them then
often many people complained because people
are just there to speak with me or they complain
that I 'play' instead of working on the game

RawPower 08-28-2001 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by Stefan
?
Also complaining about that I don't do events so often
anymore is strange, when I did them then
often many people complained because people
are just there to speak with me or they complain
that I 'play' instead of working on the game

It's not your fault, you are a very hard worker. You don't get any respect from anyone when you put lots of hard work into Graal. You're doing a good job.

(Oh and for anyone who is gunna nag on me for sucking up I really don't care. It's the truth he puts a lot of work into this game and he deserves some gratitude.)

Slaktmaster 08-28-2001 11:02 PM

Stefan is abused by the players :(
If we players started to pay more respect to Stefan and stop peekeying him when he is doing events and stop complaining at him generally he might be able to have fun on Graal again, maybe take part in the toalls again!

Am I wrong Stefan?

Admins 08-28-2001 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by Slaktmaster
Stefan is abused by the players :(
If we players started to pay more respect to Stefan and stop peekeying him when he is doing events and stop complaining at him generally he might be able to have fun on Graal again, maybe take part in the toalls again!

Am I wrong Stefan?

People just don't see that more gets done if
they just give me their ideas not first complaining
how bad it is and that it is crappy and with their
help it would be better and comments like
'thats it, I quit Graal' (after I have added golf)
and 'ok now that you have put it on you have time
for solving my problems' not seeing that Graal2001
content is may be 20% of my work

RawPower 08-28-2001 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by Stefan


People just don't see that more gets done if
they just give me their ideas not first complaining
how bad it is and that it is crappy and with their
help it would be better and comments like
'thats it, I quit Graal' (after I have added golf)
and 'ok now that you have put it on you have time
for solving my problems' not seeing that Graal2001
content is may be 20% of my work

I would seriously suggest an ideas form where people can submit new ideas to an email like [email protected].

Admins 08-28-2001 11:15 PM

Quote:

I would seriously suggest an ideas form where people can submit
new ideas to an email like
we have a forum for it ...

RawPower 08-28-2001 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by Stefan

we have a forum for it ...

Oh yea, I forgot about the future improvements forum. >.<

Admins 08-28-2001 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by Crybos


The players don't see how hard you guys work. Some think that you are lazy, but other people see that you work hard. The stupid ones, which there are MANY of, tend to not think first and do. It's hard, I bet, to do what you do, we need to show at least, some sympathy, and give you alot of credit for what you do.

Thanks
The thing is that if you want to get a server space
you must convince me/us/the Graal community to
put it up. If you do your own game project then that will
not be a problem (because you own it ;-) but you cannot
use the already existing work put in Graal and
cannot let someone professionaly do they work.
You will need to spend tons of hours working on
the game engine, network code, server, npc stuff,
possibly organize some money, running and protecting
the server etc. I have never really got time to
work on the content, it was more about
'nice idea I will add it if doesn't take much time'.
For newworld we are doing it different, hopefully
it turns out good. For you it is probably different:
you can concentrate on the content


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