Thanks for pointing some of what Bell said out, Kat. I am also confused as to why she started going off a dismissive tangent.
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I have never said everything is fine and dandy. I have just been around long enough to know that simply replacing the manager is not going to solve the problem. I have also listened to the players and read these forums. For many years actually, long before I was a PWA.
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So what's the remediation? You've addressed that you've been around to recognize the problem. What can fix it, in your experienced opinion? Not being sarcastic, being serious here if you can imagine that.
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Many of you either individually or in groups have for the most part had an ulterior motive for your demands as to who should replace Storm and or Thor. Some of you in the past and present have even been perfectly willing to lie in order to attain those motives. Some of you are just sheep agreeing with what someone else wants so you can be included in the conversation. I honestly don't think that any of you understand how destructive a rash decision on a management change can be to a server.
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Indeed some of you people are, and still are and still in place and still actively manipulating behind the proverbial curtain. But does that dismiss that there are issues to be addressed and fixed? What's the
quickest way to resolve the current (and let's face it, it is) perils?
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I fully expect someone to now say that anything is better than what we have now but are you sure about that? Would Classic being non existent be preferable to what there is now? Would going invisible and spending the next 2 or 3 years also be preferable?
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Where did you pull this speculation from? If you're referring to what I said earlier in this thread, I specifically stated that the potential is with the
server itself. Classic in its root meaning is already gone, it's time to face the facts. The hypothesis of cleaning the slate and starting from scratch with the server would be akin to, say, jumpstarting a popular TV/movie franchise from the 80s (the specific word for it escapes me at the moment, but think Transformers for example).
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Maybe you should all rethink your motives, stop dwelling on the past and come up with some constructive suggestions that could truly turn Classic around. Rome wasn't built in a day and Classic won't be either. From what I've seen and been informed of. Those that actually have good suggestions, have been saying them privately so they don't become involved in the flame wars themselves.
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Rome wasn't built in a day, but Classic also hasn't improved in dare I say close to half a decade. I don't see where you keep going off on motives and past and flame wars. It's a problem being addressed. Those that have good suggestions might want to speak up instead of keeping it private and hidden so that others may benefit from the flow of good ideas.
And also, the whole dwelling on the past thing is a big part of the problem. The server needs to draw in new people, not just merely retain what's left. I think you need to dial back on the tinfoil hat speculations, Bell, I don't think anybody's out to attack anyone here. Do try to be objective and contemplative. :)