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Googi 10-08-2006 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 1227621)
So the panel of experts could have their own educated input? :rolleyes:

Drop the rolley eyes, we're legit experts. My educated input is that calling him M. Portha isn't impressing anybody, least of all Unix.

Shaun 10-08-2006 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1227627)
Drop the rolley eyes, we're legit experts.

And then if you're a legit expert you'd understand why it's beneficial to have a private discussion with an executive to formulate a plan before presenting it to a committee (your panel of "experts"). Can't have too many chefs in the kitchen at first.

I just think him and I can have a quick couple conversations exploring different models, seeing what he likes, customizing it to GraalOnline's situation, and then I guess it's really up to him if he wants a committee to review it.

Googi 10-08-2006 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 1227631)
And then if you're a legit expert you'd understand why it's beneficial to have a private discussion with an executive to formulate a plan before presenting it to a committee (your panel of "experts").

I might be able to see how it could be beneficial for someone to.

excaliber7388 10-08-2006 03:58 AM

Oh, come on, I'm a business major too :rolleyes:

konidias 10-08-2006 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1227633)
I might be able to see how it could be beneficial for someone to.

mmmm brownie points...

But seriously... let's not go off topic here. Shaun, this isn't supposed to be an opportunity for you to snuggle up with Unixmad. We're just supposed to be throwing some ideas out there. I'm sure you have tons of great ideas that nobody else here could think of, so please share with the rest of the class.

Googi 10-08-2006 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1227635)
Oh, come on, I'm a business major too :rolleyes:

That would make you the only business major here.

excaliber7388 10-08-2006 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1227637)
That would make you the only business major here.

Therefore the best to give marketing advice :D

Googi 10-08-2006 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1227639)
Therefore the best to give marketing advice :D

He doesn't realize marketing is it's own major...

Shaun 10-08-2006 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias (Post 1227636)
mmmm brownie points...

But seriously... let's not go off topic here. Shaun, this isn't supposed to be an opportunity for you to snuggle up with Unixmad. We're just supposed to be throwing some ideas out there. I'm sure you have tons of great ideas that nobody else here could think of, so please share with the rest of the class.

I'm not trying to snuggle up to Unixmad. I don't want a position at CyberJoueurs or GraalOnline. I think the whole staff thing is stupid and really don't want all that responsibility. I am a student and professor's assistant in the Department of Economics at the School of Business at my university and it would be beneficial for me to get work experience when I apply to law school.

I think GraalOnline needs to move back a bit. Remember the GServers, when people were sprouting off their own worlds? I think GraalOnline would financially do best capitalizing off that. They're losing lots of profit from server costs. Licensing GServer software would both cut costs and increase revenue. It was the natural evolution for GraalOnline, commercially, and I don't know why they went down the path they did.

Again, it's difficult to just spout off every possibility of how to approach this, and that's why the details would need to be discussed with Unixmad, to see what direction he wants to go in, because it's all really open ended.

excaliber7388 10-08-2006 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1227640)
He doesn't realize marketing is it's own major...

Um...yeah...I know...but If you're majoring in Business administration, you take marketing classes.
The difference between a business admin major and a marketing major aren't that big.

konidias 10-08-2006 04:25 AM

Shaun, the point I'm trying to make is that Graal got this way because the players weren't being heard. Asking Unixmad to talk in private about how to improve Graal is taking yet another step backwards. We don't need any more people privately planning the future of Graal. :/

Devil 10-08-2006 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1227639)
Therefore the best to give marketing advice :D

ROFL.

Ok then, if you're the best to give marketing advice, please share some options Graal has here in the way of marketing itself.

excaliber7388 10-08-2006 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1227648)
ROFL.

Ok then, if you're the best to give marketing advice, please share some options Graal has here in the way of marketing itself.

It was a joke ;)
Shaun does know quite a bit more than me, and probably could help quite a bit. I just don't want to say that his opinion should be the only one, every one here has had some good ideas, and Unix should read through all of them.
As for Graal's marketing, it's in piss poor shape, they're not advertising, they're targeting a group that doesn't play or become as active in graal, and a group that does not stay with a game as often or as long. (Younger kids) This group also has more difficulty in subscribing. The administration has created a rift between themselves and the players, and they refuse to take them seriously, Unix sees classic account users as people who are not customers, as opposed to potential customers, and a large part of his current marketing strategy, the image of graal is hurting, and they're not doing enough to fix it... Overall, Unix's made some bad business decisions, and he's lucky they've worked out this long. It's about time for some reform.

Devil 10-08-2006 04:45 AM

Everyone knows mistakes have been made, no one is denying that. The topic is about idea's and I don't see you giving any of them towards this topic.

Lord Sephiroth 10-08-2006 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 1227641)
professor's assistant in the Department of Economics at the School of Business at my university and it would be beneficial for me to get work experience when I apply to law school.

That sure sounds like a fancy way to say you mark stuff and fetch coffee.


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