I already addressed Door's main points in a previous post. I don't see a reason to do it again. I told her I agree with most of her points.

Also, I already said that negativity is good until it gets too excessive, because then it is just demotivating. Do you really think that constantly nagging will really fix something? It really won't. You guys have been doing it for a while now and nothing has changed. Instead, you've just made it harder to get things done because you could be helping, but you're not.

Do not twist my words around either, I only "write people off" who constantly complain, not people who complain. There is a large difference.

If you and your friends would focus as much attention to Bomy Island as you do to complaining, we might just have a good "new" server to play for Graal.

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gj lashing out to change the subject away from your own complete and utter inability to defend your actions against everything I said. Yeah, you agreed with me, yeah, you said I'm too negative. Then I told you exactly what I think that means, and you are completely ignoring it just like Rufus said. At least fall gracefully.

yea because they gain so much right? i bet the bomb threats they received a couple years ago really motivated them to work. i bet they drive really fancy cars and lounge about all day because of the profits they receive from graal. while i don't wish to paraphrase, stefan implied that graal was being run personally, and maybe even at a marginal loss, especially when compared to their other projects which are much more economically beneficial. the only thing "attacking their purse" would do would push them to close down the game, which i hope is not the goal here

and in relation to tig/door/rufus, anyone who bothers to log onto graal and even just idle for more than 5 minutes contributes more to graal than the people who just post on the forums. it's the small community of sparrers, guilds, and whatever you wanna call the people who play zodiac and era, that keep the game up, not the forum participants or PWA. i am much more of a "complainer" and am much more rude on the forums than i am to people who actually go on graal, because it's you guys (and i did not mean to direct that personally at tig/rufus/door) who don't really deserve the respect and need the complaining, not them.

Yea, I actually do...just not as much because there is really nothing to do anymore, but yea....I actually sign on N-Pulse quite often since I got my new computer, and play an event now and then, and chat, but I do log on...

Yeah okay, you agreed with points that contradict most of your actions and attitude towards people? What cop-out. It's pretty obvious you just lack of a viable response for what she said.

If people aren't happy, they're either going to up and leave or resort to complaining about it. That is the nature of a consumer. Excessive problems? Excessive nagging.

You're not helping anything at all with your faux-ideals. When you go out of your way to do something for someone else they might appreciate it; do everything for that someone else and they'll end up taking it for granted. Look where we are now. We do all of the in-game development, they expect and rely on the players to do it, and development used to be a 'thing on the side' for players to get involved in if they wanted to. We should not be attempting to motivate through doing, there should already be a motivation provided in the money that is paid by all of the players out there looking for a change. You can call it "helping" all you want, but it's really not a case of just lending a hand.

I'm not going to sink to your level of immaturity, but you're manager of Graal Kingdoms and where's the much needed releases for that? You're administrator of the guilds, and where's the much needed content for that? You should know exactly what problems people face here whilst developing. Clearly your positivity isn't resulting in much either, especially since you have numerous things under your belt that you appear to be completely neglecting. Call me, a player, out all you like for not being able to contribute at a fast pace, but who is paying me? Who is paying my staff? I can proudly state that anything and everything we do is for the players though, I bet you can't say the same.

If you paid enough attention to GK, maybe it would be a half-decent server and people would play it instead of getting on the forums and complaining.

Complain.

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Yea, cause they are just so darned enjoyable!

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They could be.

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My god, this went way off topic, eh? XD

Anyway, I can't really say who I respect, because I can't decide.

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Stefan and Unixmad!